Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84299 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6593 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2015 17:54:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2015 17:54:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com designates 141.146.126.69 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.69 aserp1040.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.69] ([141.146.126.69:31181] helo=aserp1040.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 16/37-56703-BB647F45 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:54:06 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t24Hs0Qq032268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:54:01 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t24Hs0Sm000015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:54:00 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t24Hrxo3023821 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:53:59 GMT Received: from [130.35.174.31] (/130.35.174.31) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:53:53 -0800 Message-ID: <54F746C8.8000707@oracle.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:54:16 -0800 Organization: Oracle Corporation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <54F4E93C.80206@gmail.com> <54F4EBEC.2090702@garfieldtech.com> <54F4F3FC.6060501@fischer.name> <54F4FDFB.8010701@lsces.co.uk> <54F5895D.3090002@gmail.com> <554F0C3F-770F-4694-A5AB-FDC54FCCBF00@gmail.com> <54F72360.6000702@lerdorf.com> <54F73ACD.5050700@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54F73ACD.5050700@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (christopher jones) On 3/4/15 9:03 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >>> Yasuo, please stop. This isn't going to happen. Changing strlen() to str_len() is just ridiculous. -Rasmus > > Trevor Suarez wrote on 04/03/2015 15:33: >> ... well that's a constructive way of going about it. I don't think Yasuo >> did anything harmful or rude in making his proposal. Regardless of how >> realistic the idea may be, I don't think its ever appropriate or >> constructive to tell someone to simply "stop" because something "is just >> ridiculous". > > It's a bit of a crotchety answer, yes, but at this stage pretty much everything has already been said (a) in this thread, and (b) in similar threads > every few months going back as long as I've been subscribed to the list, and undoubtedly for a long time before that. > > If Rasmus has seen this conversation several times a year for the last 20 years, with the same conclusions every time, I don't blame him for being a > bit tired of it. > > There have been some alternatives suggested - come up with a change with a compelling advantage rather than tweaking the names - so if you're looking > for something constructive, help move those ideas forward, rather than flogging the dead horse. > > Regards, See #6 at https://blogs.oracle.com/opal/entry/the_mysterious_php_rfc_process Chris -- christopher.jones@oracle.com http://twitter.com/ghrd