Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84280 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45487 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2015 08:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Mar 2015 08:35:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.223.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.177 mail-ie0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.177] ([209.85.223.177:36431] helo=mail-ie0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/43-22753-8B3C6F45 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 03:35:04 -0500 Received: by ierx19 with SMTP id x19so65466105ier.3 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:35:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jVaMWd3wOOmrA7k0HVRYssQwqP+Ymf2FFzCwVl48b+Q=; b=IOnZnTAH0jXk+0zG2vi0s3c66j3JDMm2+8PrxkO5rv2HgzAIXjTg4vfz63LnWGyjaP vd+6wgPe/sxcG5sd0G8K2zvabXUh/aFkO0V0xxRTpXrosqeIfFHK4zXS6cKYDPX7B/Sg Zba/hlzi9+iXCHC82Dbw+UxuT/CkAdARY4tystCIKRsipbazkhtp6uDrYyeFvgaWGHXu BLo1nM9vHt45yi3O6fm1QkuRegPXip+LiDLcn7ImzN4JXT8IKFoBG7Av2K8u/B86rYOc MJhZ2ZP9t6W2fCdkfBSdCK4i7I+Za6hKqPciG/Czz1RPf+bcHRU/aNCVwLAdUI0m8eGo G1KQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9bsHVrxmlxjYtzCJIIYu4AP6Ra2aMvgUPcQvMi0phoAHH7bxmt9eghTRLWzJJT2b7S6C0ZreWOX97+8bjES+dTECHASN9qycq4AuZxmvgbndyUZGlfAQloD2J/grP3ngarEhdz+EXf85G7QBCGJjXu29UAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.5.212 with SMTP id 203mr9006531iof.4.1425458100980; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.107.25.72 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 00:35:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54DAFD32.3000005@gmail.com> <54DB0BC0.20304@gmail.com> <54DBA801.8060403@gmail.com> <013801d0481d$d34c5170$79e4f450$@php.net> <000a01d04939$aae34910$00a9db30$@php.net> <003d01d04974$46e52240$d4af66c0$@php.net> <09d401d05165$3c3e7fa0$b4bb7ee0$@php.net> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:35:00 +0300 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: Alexander Lisachenko , francois , Joe Watkins , Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f02e2c09166051072538d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Design by Contract From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --001a113f02e2c09166051072538d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > >> It may be to late for 7.0. >> > > I feel the same way. It may be better to try add it with 7.x. > > >> Also Alexander liked to to add another proposal, but I saw only >> pre-required one(s) >> Anyway, it's not a big problem to vote now. >> I may take care about implementation for https://wiki.php.net/rfc/dbc2 >> (but only if it wins). > > > Thank you. > The proposal would not break existing code as it does not reserve new > keywords. > We may try to add later on. Assert only DbC is messy and harder to > maintain, > but it's good start. > assert() is not for DbC. It''s useful by it's own. However, new zero-cost assert() implementation should be reused for true DbC. Thanks. Dmitry. > > Regards, > > -- > Yasuo Ohgaki > yohgaki@ohgaki.net > > --001a113f02e2c09166051072538d--