Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84250 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58048 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2015 17:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Mar 2015 17:08:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ircmaxell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ircmaxell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ircmaxell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.175 mail-lb0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.175] ([209.85.217.175:40910] helo=mail-lb0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DA/80-03783-78AE5F45 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:08:24 -0500 Received: by lbdu10 with SMTP id u10so38517868lbd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:08:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1ovrddAkVFfNx1S0oNeBxa7cOevEXv/lx5idAqlyVkI=; b=EPaarv7FmsB03iiXAB3WF0lZdmli0VJeESqmzWTNKE1p+Qa6BWlzKqLVrBvaH//fWp LiyMA5iXj+uwomyIW6FoaNY8qXVDns5Z4kLU9ep2z1SOCTi+tz/hW5cqeOP6vYMfGt+0 2kFP5RUrrgyMK6aUiwGeL8CVxBTvnLUCYI6ql4Hw5cBnaYFLAmhvEqaokLs71M8Ygul3 tVUW4RUH7IoYfiZFg6PLGnU0jVYCE2TdD9BGBG4tWymRXyl0TSBivhMAiK0F52Cg4RRH VHcMSWat42ZvLGXn/hhJhhlrbX+teamvrwRFV8shhR1kgDC94vuxZUZ0zQzU5OBnTgox dumQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.139.136 with SMTP id qy8mr30113854lbb.38.1425402500781; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.43.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:08:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <73db72094f98cba6adddfda31e43ab4a@mail.gmail.com> References: <54F08FF3.3040404@seld.be> <63262a9c0edd51bbf38df2a00c87340e@mail.gmail.com> <9977a20c9d756489f41e666d23c89e3f@mail.gmail.com> <9656140ae786d42e7b0da11dbd416a61@mail.gmail.com> <73db72094f98cba6adddfda31e43ab4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:08:20 -0500 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Zend JIT Open Sourced From: ircmaxell@gmail.com (Anthony Ferrara) Zeev, On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> It wins on uneven ground. > > Without the output buffering code it's a LOT more uneven, as the PHP version > is flushing every byte - approx. 6,000 such flushes. Then the benchmark should suffer because of that. You're testing the full stack of all of the other languages, yet disabling a significant part of it for PHP and saying "it's still fair because that part of the stack is expensive". Anthony