Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84205 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22944 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2015 23:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2015 23:19:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.171 mail-we0-f171.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.171] ([74.125.82.171:41393] helo=mail-we0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/24-14834-E00F4F45 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 18:19:42 -0500 Received: by wevm14 with SMTP id m14so36467982wev.8 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=C57Z9aSaeevjHtrIphSlBGcE07HC/1Ynk1SZ001A6kw=; b=Hh3pM9SUGfyNHCGIEIHRVud4Snj+BfwP0nfNLR4mdA0EdosEvNgCIDFilCqPMbOzU7 VJyV/f3+0F0dBlXkf3cjmXtWWSlWqaEXKRABV4rxQPTtNLQuAAeLk2yBsfYqKK0Ml1Da uLTCMVuqknNjLA06/f7WipemhI8DUg66gh1eqUBVRc4ApJsdbXe0UU+QUi72jWCn9LKs E7jF+7BCHinq0T913IW9S1ccYthcnsqn88SmH1YyYFqqf2D7PVYagKfmfiEY9taylJrB rUQqu0AETHYn/xW6Ilt5F9i4576jjQdaEPoQhDuzhbiJsMWqk2f0Wip5lrV9H/Hiq7rw RmYg== X-Received: by 10.180.214.99 with SMTP id nz3mr40960130wic.82.1425338378516; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (cpc68956-brig15-2-0-cust215.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.6.24.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uc18sm18065313wib.0.2015.03.02.15.19.36 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:19:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54F4EFF9.507@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:19:21 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yasuo Ohgaki CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <54F4E29D.7080501@garfieldtech.com> <54F4E93C.80206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050903020403020502060304" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) --------------050903020403020502060304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02/03/2015 22:59, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > Hi Rowan, > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Rowan Collins > wrote: > > On 02/03/2015 22:36, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > I like scalar objects, but it does not resolve that PHP has > non standard > function names. > It does not change old names, therefore it's impossible to > resolve issue. > This is the reason why I'm proposing while I like scalar > object, use of > namespace, etc. > > > Again, you're contradicting yourself here - you can't say that > your mission is to change the old names, rather than offer an > alternative, but then also say that the old names will stay around > forever. If both names exist, that's exactly what you've created - > an alternative. > > > I think there is big difference between new API and alias. > Alias is just a copy, new API works differently. I agree. One difference is that new API is actually useful to people, whereas alias just adds to the confusion. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP] --------------050903020403020502060304--