Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84197 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9921 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2015 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2015 22:40:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.49 mail-wg0-f49.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.49] ([74.125.82.49:41752] helo=mail-wg0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/51-14834-CE6E4F45 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 17:40:45 -0500 Received: by wghl18 with SMTP id l18so36453514wgh.8 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:40:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Z//2KIHuqy/dt0GpPE3lgRGhxSKuqRDZGxOID7OoWQ=; b=rlr5L5wCKFMwqsP5aGneFBs24o4gFnjXPwz/5cZIUKAU+J6JMmxtyNINUZ3W4O93Br 3cNK1Rb5/+EdBe3lHvI07Qtr9BjacN3abq8H/JC/kBob+5HPdQNtfYvXpHh107kbIHwS RlKYu+Q4Rv7TbIpPklj5t2lwrTCkHKrmmcM3V+iRqJ8eTdUV/8ltC6VWCdwlR/mpZpvc 8o6fCUjMnYUEGDClJe3sUQltTE2djOoEKzUnB7dlUT6GPMLghXhNJHHzqtdnQnOE9oVs Szhz5OK3bhpRu1zY6/277behH2ImM8BKXnygp53aAA47UWGFdxsy48O9qBUqpgmdkUus Rqjg== X-Received: by 10.180.81.7 with SMTP id v7mr40447930wix.27.1425336042454; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (cpc68956-brig15-2-0-cust215.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.6.24.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dj5sm21110329wjb.28.2015.03.02.14.40.41 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:40:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54F4E6DA.6000200@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:40:26 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5E7DF0C5-BCB4-432A-A876-A5057FEBFBB5@gmail.com> <54F320E9.5000706@fischer.name> <54F4159A.6010903@fischer.name> <54F4DD6B.6090809@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 02/03/2015 22:09, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > I think old function names should exist forever, so there wouldn't be > issue you mentioned. ... > The issue here is PHP will keep inconsistent names forever or not. > IMHO. Have you noticed the slight contradiction here? You want to get rid of the inconsistent names, but you propose to keep the old, inconsistent, names around forever. And then you want to add more names, so that people can inconsistently use a different name for the same thing. We all wish we could go back in time and tell Rasmus to choose better names (probably including Rasmus himself; no ill will intended!), but just adding some slightly different names for the same things will muddle people more, not less. I'm sorry, but this isn't going to be any more popular a suggestion than the last ten times it was proposed. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]