Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84195 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6087 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2015 22:22:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2015 22:22:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 66.111.4.25 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.111.4.25 out1-smtp.messagingengine.com Received: from [66.111.4.25] ([66.111.4.25:47520] helo=out1-smtp.messagingengine.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9D/90-14834-3A2E4F45 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 17:22:27 -0500 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA10720C03 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2015 17:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 02 Mar 2015 17:22:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:message-id:date:from :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=kBemIFlmOX8t+FL17Gpnzr PqvV8=; b=Ire5YOkOCxuwqu8SlfPPCMtGoDZ6UvD0bEcRmHhfDq4hzgqKhaU+sp 7GeF8mWC7CNyPXufdQ516AqQBfp3B4rzrl5LlImfsLX3Gl/1GJUlmpWImZ5tQWpn i4mruTjmK/g8/9KA3exrMblpIyW3el/fU+vg5yEKjAKk106fLMpKQ= X-Sasl-enc: rPsPJ5BAOVGhPm0Zkoe9CN1nOpv/nP1NMVFFVqXI7SY/ 1425334941 Received: from Palantirs-MacBook-Pro-7.local (unknown [63.250.249.138]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 74C91680205 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2015 17:22:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54F4E29D.7080501@garfieldtech.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 16:22:21 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) On 3/2/15 4:01 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > Sorry, I do not see how a new thread helps. Namespace either. These > will only be duplicated APIs for little to no gain. Existing codes > won't move as they won't be compatible with 5.x. > > We should really consider Nikita's experiment instead,as it acutally > brings some big plus. Simple aliases for the sake of having _ in the > names bring nothing but confusion in my humble opinion. > > Cheers, This topic has come up many times, and that is always the answer. We should look at something meaningful (methods on scalars, which eliminates the parameter order issue as well) rather than just duplicate function names. This is at least the third time we've had this thread and come to that same statement. I agree with it. So what's the blocker on discussing Nikita's work for core? --Larry Garfield