Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84170 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27862 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2015 15:10:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2015 15:10:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=patrick.allaert@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=patrickallaert@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: patrick.allaert@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.177 mail-we0-f177.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.177] ([74.125.82.177:43219] helo=mail-we0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8C/C1-14834-E7D74F45 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:10:55 -0500 Received: by wesu56 with SMTP id u56so33919286wes.10 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 07:10:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=qDcIXtjYm8r9212OwNLBA/jOh+WhtqA3ded437rm2ns=; b=V0Wfi2nlVCY89Xv99AOLvNUgf6j1MHJJT6B9u8norunNQ0NiYGza6mV/HvGJrrawuZ 3iX2N+CKTmz96mjXFbM3/4rN/oCmELZoc562XSW3zEXmw+mP0HKockLpoROs0NHhEqsX a5iNKXuSb4svoX1ZgIUUR/Ig6ntcCPGeofSfJ0DXFhOKeflnrIjpIOqBPRlL4wx5tMtw sdTvR4r8vBlbYOjUny6Mv8BO6tjmz6CP50hrmObJFZMUtVING/mMzVL5CJYtMepZLdmF IOrYZtYJJ1MrwsP0/5OTg50vrwQkGFGnFivwaZGdL+GZJWpkduxu1f5zCgxPwVBFAMrA Dohw== X-Received: by 10.194.157.68 with SMTP id wk4mr60143185wjb.123.1425309050067; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 07:10:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <885a29db28bc96b2d3cd2ac96907e39f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:10:49 +0000 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0112cbfc9fe2b205104f9f98 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Question/comment about the Array to String conversion RFC From: patrickallaert@php.net (Patrick ALLAERT) --089e0112cbfc9fe2b205104f9f98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le lun. 2 mars 2015 =C3=A0 15:24, Zeev Suraski a =C3=A9crit= : > All, > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/array-to-string (which I voted yes to) deviates > from our guidelines of deprecating features first, and removing them > later; It=E2=80=99s addressed in the RFC =E2=80=93 but I=E2=80=99m a bit= worried that this opens > the door to jumping from any sort of notice/warning into errors or remove= d > features without any deprecation phase. > > > > In comparison, in Nikita=E2=80=99s RFC for removing E_STRICT =E2=80=93 th= ere aren=E2=80=99t any > proposed =E2=80=98jumps=E2=80=99 to E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR that don=E2=80=99= t first go through > E_DEPRECATED. > > > > Should we not go through this deprecation cycle, even if may feel anxious > to get rid of this behavior? > I'm all for deprecating before it gets removed (especially since I voted "no" to that). Patrick --089e0112cbfc9fe2b205104f9f98--