Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84139 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3292 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2015 01:31:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Mar 2015 01:31:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.182 mail-qc0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.182] ([209.85.216.182:33430] helo=mail-qc0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8B/73-17251-06DB3F45 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:31:12 -0500 Received: by qcxm20 with SMTP id m20so22317214qcx.0 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=5DkHMQaufUA7yR2FqcW1+bRINpSGT8j75W7DKr9F01c=; b=cX6C710cHq1a8JPMJn/eATVlhkS0dzFCo5LaXo0TlowaWJaEzT8CoT9Lk/2stevpRE ageNDXX6XKdZzaxLgVWS2Lb+J123LP8rkzo7Dod6VgR3zGIP0mbyWfy4LUauiDGXNG8W SgPEOtLFk0ON+3wDrOAi8GQZ8qexDsDiq1lsIc63O+ikk0GMuj92k0PWUS8ql1m+ljhf bIIlzmtpYtoPm9onKWlPWmIHAmIFMsvYQruNlTvIrtAx7nAhJyEySVFxvvjvsnKlLvm1 KeK82WojJrP0UoWvNP2dB8/KHEDd+VWCJlmm6FAmMX9syZotF0OkPudvTzMn24bzOkiP dqDw== X-Received: by 10.140.108.66 with SMTP id i60mr45116807qgf.73.1425259869405; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:31:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.198.8 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 17:30:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5E7DF0C5-BCB4-432A-A876-A5057FEBFBB5@gmail.com> <54F320E9.5000706@fischer.name> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 10:30:29 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EmafWRMg6b_w1Tp0G9qT1MUG3aY Message-ID: To: "S.A.N" Cc: Terry Cullen , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113923863a8ad30510442cf9 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Consistent function names From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a113923863a8ad30510442cf9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:55 AM, S.A.N wrote: > 2015-03-02 2:17 GMT+02:00 Terry Cullen : > > On 2 March 2015 at 01:18, S.A.N wrote: > > > >> Maybe better implement for method calls on primitive types in PHP 7? > >> https://github.com/nikic/scalar_objects > >> > >> > > I've searched through the internals archive looking for debate on using > > scalar objects without much luck. I'd love to see some discussion around > > this as it seems like it would go a long way to resolving some common > pain > > points in PHP without BC like: > > > > - type hints > > - inconsistant function naming > > - needle/haystack > > - unicode > > > > And, the method chaining of common string/array manipulations makes for > > cleaner, easier to read code. > > > > +1 I'm strong supporter for scalar objects also. I still would like to clean up old function names, like phpversion()/etc. I did this for pgsql module large object functions about 10 years ago. It worked well enough. IMHO. http://php.net/manual/en/function.pg-lo-open.php pg_lo_open() was named pg_loopen(). The old name aliases, pg_loopen()/etc, are available now, too. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a113923863a8ad30510442cf9--