Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:84093 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74100 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2015 03:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Mar 2015 03:53:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=leight@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=leight@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: leight@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.182 mail-vc0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.182] ([209.85.220.182:42527] helo=mail-vc0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2E/B1-63732-A2D82F45 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 22:53:15 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id id10so8869557vcb.13 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:53:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RYPmuRVunP6VStSuAvuCbZZJrkacAexsasg5JM+tSVY=; b=xfGDSW0KobfSeRLM1K0AmYATbk9sV3F/5+cY2zTVZQomnxAwxu2JPjK60S+dsCXzxD FAs7uTnBhlAIHvq0/fghlP9v7ezJohtKG7yzU7t9AV6nc+BiwK8XS4gB/Qm2lbNTajNB EJwj4r0foeduYSjfAknSvmclWScBSThzM8ACe+X0hnOT735aN5U98vCLAwB2Gx2yMWUm KsD4qNp2/ApWGh3Na0mhG00Una1J2OYhTnnIdFjFGWvUEd9UCVy8DWzNqZLaXVLrU+f6 /HZlRE6h6snARdE03YdLDt6xS3+nFwdYQRWW+6jZIx1h4/jHZGjs5zOPy1g6ezaL1bJ/ dc4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.25.11 with SMTP id y11mr19759896vdf.51.1425181992627; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.177.10 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:53:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54F28864.7000007@gmail.com> References: <54F28864.7000007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 03:53:12 +0000 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Design by Contract - Vote only RFC From: leight@gmail.com (Leigh) On 1 March 2015 at 03:32, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > I don't see why the first one needs any vote. It is supposed to be > implemented as an extension, so why not go and implement an extension, > and put it in PECL, and then propose it for core inclusion, if it proves > popular? Agree > As for the second one, do we really need the syntax change that would > just move asserts to before { instead of after? If we already have > zero-cost asserts, why just not use them? Agree @yasuo. The votes are closed.