Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83852 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91853 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2015 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2015 23:38:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=leight@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=leight@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: leight@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.181 mail-vc0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.181] ([209.85.220.181:44928] helo=mail-vc0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CC/0C-34010-1EC5EE45 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:38:09 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id im6so2686060vcb.12 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:38:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DGMlUpAYxy6n6TISNcJpeYbswmx8vl3oHERX3lfutwU=; b=ajLHLz9PcSECdtpxWPRwhbUHj2KLV9sVnVeRijn9G3np48BD0VFDUXhUrHFcjTNUzQ 9KZjIAT+sa9nBZYTGj3+0jRrduArpUuyTXyiMgC5SxijdQ6JgceV8LRyrCuAntJEKp57 dT7yBMpD2Xkzg2TuH5kdLujqpTKYe5PAQWFHBFZGqORBll5WhLpEFO2D2Jf+B1Y8227P hPrxL53nnXzdrMU2R5topniqu5ix7RYGn4ihjW+FAx8zzAMHZ02FehUTEm4J4+v5/SkU iaRdQvmhGPhBuvo9lpzhoScO0Nhnq3Fj+6fzfbhsnahFl4RyBV36AGuUSQSWmdIFNwNG tlrg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.103.75 with SMTP id fu11mr6263906vdb.5.1424907486581; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.4.104 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:38:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:38:06 +0000 Message-ID: To: php-internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Reliable user-land CSPRNG From: leight@gmail.com (Leigh) Might as well mention it because it has been discussed OTR. We've thrown the idea around that we could cater for other sources of random via a PHP extension. (I.e. if someone has a particular hardware RNG they want to use). We're concerned that this may be misused, or even abused as a way of deliberately weakening the source of random. Our current preference is to not include this as a feature.