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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] Introduce script only include/require
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

Padraic, I'm not really interested in another prolonged discussion,
especially where my arguments are ignored or misconstrued and then
dismissed. I have explained my opinion, if somebody has questions about
the substance of my arguments or need me to clarify my points, rather
than flat-out denial of what I am saying, they know where to find me. I
think this RFC is bad. You think it's excellent. I tried to explain my
point to you, judging by your responses, I failed to convey my meaning.
I am probably bad at this, but I'm not going to become better by
repeating the same over and over.
I don't see what else I can do here - if majority of people would agree
with you, we'll have another bad security feature in PHP, and will have
to deal with it for the next decade, just as we had to suffer the safe
mode problems. I hope this will not happen, but I really don't see what
else I can say, provided that what I already said - including
demonstrating trivial workarounds that allow to circumvent this feature
with extreme ease - had no effect.

> Is there some sort of meter on Internals where, in the red, there is
> an obligation to fill it back up with FUD, logical fallacies and the
> occasional fib?

I also would really like for you to stop accusing me of lying. I may be
mistaken, and I am sure I have been many times, but everything I write
here is a product of careful consideration and thought, and aimed at
making PHP better. The next instance you do this, I'm not going to
reply, I'm just going to delete all following communications from you,
from that point, forever. I can handle very spirited technical
disagreement, I'm not new on the internet, but I do not see what use
would be for me to spend my time on being insulted. There are a lot of
more productive uses of my time. If there's no mutual respect here, then
the chance of productive cooperation is nil. I hope we can hold
respectful discussion, even when disagreeing. But if not, then I won't
participate in any other kind.
-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com