Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83716 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90566 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2015 23:41:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Feb 2015 23:41:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.170 mail-qc0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.170] ([209.85.216.170:44811] helo=mail-qc0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9C/5C-24698-D3C0DE45 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:41:50 -0500 Received: by qcvs11 with SMTP id s11so260394qcv.11 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:41:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=78ckI4gA0LIS3hRLIcQy4214Qi+pcbaCW5nzta2kkKc=; b=qmAZij3lw4oD8NFRphRCF99JTTF6dl+8oo79QUOJHNlGgaMaC3ZuWm3//i7myD14ar Z5RgJWgnBMobryFhJEaWXZhMAU8if3kPIDpYP0MH8geUSKTmTb+QCMKn5drIHoTsZtd2 Ehc8YcOlK4UGKwDOARhOxrcs/btWdaPcMcQNVdUeI/d6q/wQpyZoEKkzZQ60qL5zv+fn EHHG/knbLXuXuV3VmZik+zIzC5YtbMmlmRokEzrHx2EIyigo9TBrlvtxDG/0s2ocdwCm eEYYgn+BhejL6yXXtQIjWKV1PMAXtTArBIFeKD75875CeNdezSatkkcxoO5rrsg7u71D 5hRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.207.198 with SMTP id fz6mr1045298qcb.27.1424821306956; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:41:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <086901d05035$22055d10$66101730$@php.net> References: <081001d04fe8$dcbc0160$96340420$@php.net> <081901d04fee$e6de8d60$b49ba820$@php.net> <086901d05035$22055d10$66101730$@php.net> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:41:46 -0800 Message-ID: To: francois@php.net Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki , Zeev Suraski , Anthony Ferrara , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Coercive Scalar Type Hints RFC - BC breaks From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre = wrote: > I think I was not clear. *Every* 'break' I report here won't generate any= thing more than E_DEPRECATED in the final implementation. By definition. Ne= need to wait for a better patch. How do you test apps with actual production data? What a given code is being fed with in production, everywhere, using random application&users specific data or inputs. Obviously it is easy failed casts, but what do your tests cover? I do not worry much about what we know but what we do not know. And changing the casting rules opens a Pandora box.