Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83424 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83576 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2015 20:14:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2015 20:14:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=marcio.web2@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=marcio.web2@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: marcio.web2@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.54 mail-la0-f54.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.54] ([209.85.215.54:44313] helo=mail-la0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/F2-08895-317E8E45 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 15:14:11 -0500 Received: by lams18 with SMTP id s18so12057220lam.11 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:14:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OAVlWj/OZhee23+tIb119NKtoEyU/RzLxKpaLJnpOXE=; b=BCYK6ahx+JVUbVHShPofcx8EeyO1c98ZFnU0KEsRnr2uEcwkTis5X/z2STGlUgXt35 XeLJ6DP612wJm16Rynpbat4hrWcOk+lSZYtD6jED657OW2GKiaPmPQNQhVIxxZBXB/Bu nZzi+zUAJY6ddlKuuz9pnEMySTzunm0nB/S+7gQ9JLzC9lwSVeMEpk94ZnH3NXIgLTth 5wQnqpDhRbnWD0OQPXszjr85YjsaZPoW7FFg/T5kwgat/oP7Yx9/UNo8EgoMOg8wgLGJ 9ZHbLdV9tr7NNU2kBgd4fSaftfohj1AsvFA2ZLoYTZ4Chloh5SX4A4LXZrKYPiHUXSbP Cxug== X-Received: by 10.152.26.199 with SMTP id n7mr3261640lag.29.1424549648471; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:14:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.118.193 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 12:13:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: marcio3w@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7ef509ef10bb345c792f9d259c7a3fbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ef509ef10bb345c792f9d259c7a3fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 17:13:48 -0300 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160a406c31c1d050f9ecf69 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Coercive Scalar Type Hints RFC From: marcio.web2@gmail.com (Marcio Almada) --089e0160a406c31c1d050f9ecf69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 2015-02-21 14:22 GMT-03:00 Zeev Suraski : > All, > > I=E2=80=99ve been working with Fran=C3=A7ois and several other people fro= m internals@ > and the PHP community to create a single-mode Scalar Type Hints proposal. > > I think it=E2=80=99s the RFC is a bit premature and could benefit from a = bit more > time, but given the time pressure, as well as the fact that a not fully > compatible subset of that RFC was published and has people already > discussing it, it made the most sense to publish it sooner rather than > later. > > The RFC is available here: > > wiki.php.net/rfc/coercive_sth > > Comments welcome! > > Zeev > Thanks for your effort and for proposing the RFC so quick. But indeed, as you said, this is really premature. According to my interpretation the RFC proposes a potentially huge bc break on internal functions usage while the competing (recently withdraw) RFC was BC compatible regarding this. Having this proposal without a working patch, so we can try the real impact it could have before form opinions, frankly, doesn't sound like a good idea. I know it's still a draft but, considering the RFC is aimed to v7.0, I hope to see a working implementation before the feature freeze just like what was exemplary made with the other previous withdraw proposals. Thanks, M=C3=A1rcio --089e0160a406c31c1d050f9ecf69--