Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83416 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67129 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2015 18:31:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2015 18:31:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.51 mail-qg0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.51] ([209.85.192.51:37655] helo=mail-qg0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E1/EF-08895-A1FC8E45 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 13:31:55 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id z60so18952528qgd.10 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q0HwLkAGNHnh0mYr2tFL6z4QPCbah/X8tZBCb7CsEEQ=; b=rz4564fUMG/ERdPjKM92ISoEOvnnb4Jb4XAuocGH31cm4Hq76mpdNEIDFsBjubnIPU cCdqlvaxXvZKvV3v12YdcRM++RPgaxxtuMbzQHeake/n4pIxvafbmTQJVP85+m6n9BoH ZjsuxcRSOBH9+U5yvrnekQX+bsqQs7doPUI9BZk7VUpttYxnU5bv0Ok5ezCWCLCxKI2v 70m5zlGapO92KoF22L/u4HNlLY4ak6ujmSP/ryU5I+20yFAYVLG0qjekYvwRp6+0vS7x lom/rK3fYleMounjVIseiLAKbvtd6ZfDPJlPhoGGgJ0nsjpcnXK5YgPxPOt7j8zMMndj GGbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.233.148 with SMTP id e142mr8145646qhc.15.1424543512340; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7ef509ef10bb345c792f9d259c7a3fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:52 -0800 Message-ID: To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Coercive Scalar Type Hints RFC From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Pierre, > >> And finally, this RFC only proposes one solution, so competitive RFCs >> are still required to actually represent alternatives. > > That is a good thing. it should only propose one solution. Making a > single RFC proposing two solutions would be a MASSIVE mistake IMHO as > these proposals are complex and charged enough without trying to make > a voter read a single piece of text that goes back and forth between > two options. > > We need to be simplifying, not making more difficult. Only about 25% > of my RFC is dedicated to the proposal. The other ~75% is dedicated to > summarizing the conversation and acting as a FAQ. That could well live > off-RFC if we used discussion pages or something of the like (which we > likely should). > I am not saying this is good or bad. I only fear the php7-Zend like RFCs being done again with this one. Let prevent that to happen. We need a consensus and well thought compromises. I do not see any of that in that one. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org