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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:57:00 +0200
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To: Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com>, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Reviving scalar type hints
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmaxell@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:36 AM
> To: Larry Garfield
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Reviving scalar type hints
>
> Larry,
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
> wrote:
> > On 02/20/2015 06:28 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
> >>
> >> Considering I'm not targetting 7 (I've updated the RFC to hint this),
> >> we can choose what to do later depending on the exceptions result
> >> (whether to bypass execution in strict mode only, or for all calls).
> >> Thanks for the insight Anthony
> >
> >
> > That makes me very sad, as whether the strict option is there or not
> > I'd
> > *really* love to see scalar hints in PHP 7 to complement return type
> > hinting.
>
> Timing just won't work while being fair with alternative proposals.
> I've said since I re-opened the proposal that I'm comfortable with it not
> targeting 7.0...
>
> Unless we're willing to push feature freeze by 2-3 weeks for it, it just
> doesn't
> make sense to target 7 with people working on an alternate proposal (since
> by definition they couldn't target 7).

Anthony,

Following Adam's analysis of the timeline, taking the more 'strict' (no pun
intended!) interpretation of the timeline RFC, we still have until tomorrow
to start the discussion and still target it for 7.0, no?  Given the
importance of this topic, I'd go for the more lax interpretation that allows
for votes to begin by March 15, giving us all a bit more time to discuss.  I
don't think any of us, on any camp, wants to wait for 2016 for this.

Thoughts?

Zeev