Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83263 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81260 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2015 04:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Feb 2015 04:33:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:39720] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E5/B0-11624-FF8B6E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:33:05 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F984B0140; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 05:32:58 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: To: "'Pierre Joye'" Cc: =?utf-8?Q?'P=C3=A1draic_Brady'?= , "'Anthony Ferrara'" , "'Stas Malyshev'" , "'Lester Caine'" , "'PHP Internals'" References: <04c701d04c99$ab0da5d0$0128f170$@php.net> <04cc01d04cb2$e25511e0$a6ff35a0$@php.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 05:32:56 +0100 Message-ID: <04dc01d04cc6$4cbd89f0$e6389dd0$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHZm35ye3NFGwIiX+/cnKgzWZqQygMQ3uOUAXUy2e8C5+2pSgNLsNkyAo3mKpgCVQ2h3pxpakPQ Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150219-1, 19/02/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations v0.5) From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=) > De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] > > Such as? Competition is good and my past experiences is that in cases > like this one, it is nearly an utopia to think that the other party > will actually try to reach your needs. So the only way to actually get > a RFC representing what you want to do is to have a competitive one. Competition is good but needs rules. I am still skeptic about whether bringing concurrent RFCs in such = complex and hot subjects does more good than bad. If discussion were = meaningful and focused, maybe, but I'm afraid it could degenerate in FUD = campaigns, which would waste energy for nothing. You probably don't remember, I experienced such FUD when I proposed a = concurrent to phar. That's something I'll try to avoid because it showed = that competition with no rule is not the solution. Regards Fran=C3=A7ois