Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83260 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75653 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2015 03:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Feb 2015 03:50:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.52 mail-qg0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.52] ([209.85.192.52:44918] helo=mail-qg0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 59/91-65128-E0FA6E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 22:50:38 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h3so11662115qgf.11 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:50:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Y+1EsJzO8dVKLf5QJSLKvlqep83WIDSsnJIp5D1lDU=; b=PX9jvwuw60yBY82OZEBBaYpKM/B4MxFuYk7Wy0h6zwPB/zYd23bGUyyR4yGj1GtoEb luN/9XnTe/5EzwSEJRwiXQU174Gart33D92FqyUwiXmHIZp7AxODLOj/stkd+nsbswWu 6ia8B0YEeNbqy2aryrc21BwA/F/hSBPH2gVBrHfElqRUOb+0nkC2DQymTebw4a8Pd8D4 CwPK60WNgh+bMX+M86ErWMIPQSTj+vg4mVvUqmIhzmJ5MccsO1igxfsHqwNdf/BPEo+e luLBHcGUsTZefsVzbRkCrWFBwDA+CFx8b3F4Vzv707Cbz1i2vouryY2Tv+OCIT1Yag2a VqWA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.65.133 with SMTP id j5mr20649305qci.27.1424404235552; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:50:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:50:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <04cc01d04cb2$e25511e0$a6ff35a0$@php.net> References: <04c701d04c99$ab0da5d0$0128f170$@php.net> <04cc01d04cb2$e25511e0$a6ff35a0$@php.net> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:50:35 -0800 Message-ID: To: francois@php.net Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draic_Brady?= , Anthony Ferrara , Stas Malyshev , Lester Caine , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations v0.5) From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre = wrote: >> De : P=C3=A1draic Brady [mailto:padraic.brady@gmail.com] >> >> As I understand it, Andrea left her RFC free to be reused, reopened >> and derived without any specific limitation. It would therefore appear >> that it would be possible for there to be 100 derived RFCs all owned >> by different people, i.e. nobody has an exclusive right to either the >> RFC text or the concept of scalar typehints insofar as I understand >> it. > > You're right. The process of taking over an RFC in this case is not defin= ed. Even if Andrea explicitly authorized anyone to derive anything from her= work, I thought it was lack of respect for her work to take control and sw= itch to another direction. That's why, while I'm not totally in sync with A= nthony's proposal, I think he is acting the right way regarding Andrea's wo= rk. I think so too and it is not the 1st time. > And yes, apparently, you could have 100 RFCs derived from the same one an= d published by different people. I also guessed it was forbidden, at least = by common sense, but it is possible. > > I would happily support more rules for such cases. Such as? Competition is good and my past experiences is that in cases like this one, it is nearly an utopia to think that the other party will actually try to reach your needs. So the only way to actually get a RFC representing what you want to do is to have a competitive one. In the other hand, I had other cases where the counter part happily added options and co to have an objective RFC.