Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83251 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54927 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2015 00:21:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Feb 2015 00:21:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=padraic.brady@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=padraic.brady@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: padraic.brady@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.175 mail-yk0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.175] ([209.85.160.175:61698] helo=mail-yk0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B4/30-52763-BED76E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:20:59 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q200so5630076ykb.6 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:20:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z845EHTmOWi0HxBZqKboRIk4YCvy+RMFBjeRH9thYgI=; b=QtrZCvS52/Ypu23TtZJaXO3keatrXg5VOKtVLDcwup/PEgKkduJENiAoZLK8Q4ereF DW0YOEXU8GV7T0gigBpUeaV1TSFjPMOljdy+5QSRG9Wdav9pgzMftY6IYYBH2DlBah/b I1OOFjFCgx9Y7Yrl1luNdb+XPc5pF1Ig0qS5UktoaHaTfG/ZdnK67ZhRkMm3rshBYHXT HkKGJD358gzhIpMX+WbD7Kiw1p50KM0LbCQGB5mYhA84WoZ0IeR2OwDy/U8lDVf3w9i+ HivtuJzAGAujUluzMXCClQqPnZ15FRnOM6WOT/WAmFWCEyEjGaXmVPY2mnW1sHIaTzB7 wU8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.4.72 with SMTP id 48mr5047152yhi.10.1424391656170; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.222.86 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:20:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <04c701d04c99$ab0da5d0$0128f170$@php.net> References: <04c701d04c99$ab0da5d0$0128f170$@php.net> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:20:56 +0000 Message-ID: To: francois@php.net Cc: Anthony Ferrara , Stas Malyshev , Lester Caine , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations v0.5) From: padraic.brady@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draic_Brady?=) Hi Fran=C3=A7ois, On 19 February 2015 at 23:13, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wr= ote: > I never asked anyone to abandon his work. I just asked to respect the rul= es. What I told you first is that, while Sara did not resigned formally, I = didn't see why you could publish derived concurrent work from the RFC she w= as currently owning (and I don't use reddit, sorry). > > Now, it is still not very clear to me whether we have one or two active R= FCs at this time... > > You will be surprised but I prefer the way you're dealing with Andrea's R= FC, because you are just taking over, orienting but not denaturing anything= she did, and that's fine, even if we don't fully agree. The reason I didn'= t formally take over the RFC first is that I considered I would denature he= r work and couldn't do that (while it would have brought me less problems, = finally). As I understand it, Andrea left her RFC free to be reused, reopened and derived without any specific limitation. It would therefore appear that it would be possible for there to be 100 derived RFCs all owned by different people, i.e. nobody has an exclusive right to either the RFC text or the concept of scalar typehints insofar as I understand it. Nevertheless, 0.5 following 0.4 leads to certain obvious assumptions that for good or ill may be made in the absence of the full picture. This all sounds like a simple misunderstanding under exceptional circumstances. As I believe Sara noted before, she will work with either of the RFCs (yours or Anthony's) as it fits her own purposes, so it will boil down to whichever RFCs gets published in the end. There's one up. I assume yours will follow. That shall make two :). Paddy -- P=C3=A1draic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.survivethedeepend.com