Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83235 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17758 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2015 20:08:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Feb 2015 20:08:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ircmaxell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ircmaxell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ircmaxell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.175 mail-lb0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.175] ([209.85.217.175:33913] helo=mail-lb0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 72/E0-10294-5C246E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:08:38 -0500 Received: by lbdu14 with SMTP id u14so2205586lbd.1 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JHajXKge5wPZiPf25mC6C9qQ4tJbg9EbGgwmewkW1eo=; b=qg+ngkQqDhVJ0PHHUqqjLbaqOIzQyUkj55wJKvJcSDgPPBQYtLRgBDBBnpj9fBPlMo g2r2dH3peQcpYw8I8inGmmtMbCIgowrsVhhsUQBD7ksQtAJIYnwOPqxt3iROSH/IePD3 OuJbYhvUQx9KUvXNX+8qY0ijPm+fOtQtEIpRN326vCHBedf2zHxRy5UC3PHseHnNZIeP z2yEHtaNN6htvDPV14YyXJuCmWPVIc1BWfEJcs7E8r21Xdd7eJVi5lsaaAOgtiGW9dRT f+hdYTYRipUz1+ibVSYKdnb2fvxg5KJgwwXKGc/QOq+LA0x+7D7PraoHPa//OypAIyzM XKQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.139.136 with SMTP id qy8mr5622249lbb.38.1424376514828; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.25.43.9 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <84223f8590aa140b2e1c251d00c34560@mail.gmail.com> References: <84223f8590aa140b2e1c251d00c34560@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:08:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations v0.5) From: ircmaxell@gmail.com (Anthony Ferrara) Zeev, Based on Sara's clarification in this thread, I owe you a formal apology. I interpreted something she said incorrectly, which was then compounded by messages in private and on-list this morning. I then attributed both of you qualities and motives that have been proven false. For this, I am sorry for any implication or direct acquisition that I made against you. I do believe that the best way forward is parallel proposals, as I believe that we have different goals. So I look forward to seeing yours, and will continue forward with mine. Hopefully this differing of opinion can be rectified before too long. Thanks, Anthony On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmaxell@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:04 PM >> To: Zeev Suraski >> Cc: internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations >> v0.5) >> >> Zeev, >> >> That was a quote directly from Sara in a public chat room. It wasn't >> "someone else". >> >> So it seems like there was a failure in communication if you felt that it >> was >> 100% polite, and she described it as "not-so-politely". > > Ouch. I'm really not sure why she felt that way. I'll follow up with her > to try and understand. > >> Then that's great! But let's find that out by voting rather than guessing, >> and >> rather than politicking. Let's let two competing proposals go head to >> head. > > I'd rather find out by first discussing the alternative, rather than just > moving ahead to a revote - especially a revote that was placed on a > shortened timeline - given the importance of this RFC. But as you clearly > disagree, it's your call to make and I respect that. > > Zeev