Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83229 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 124 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2015 17:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Feb 2015 17:35:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.45 mail-qg0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.45] ([209.85.192.45:36345] helo=mail-qg0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CA/06-18870-3CE16E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:34:59 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id h3so7914153qgf.4 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:34:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GohtBVicmJMsm248Amekb+ch7LQUtlsNkRx7j9H9acw=; b=sNrPkB/T6Zv27errT7BLUFTjwDUbZ31MPKe3uqTcdWTAzL4nhKvN/fUWYj3p44A14n TY7W8vZ0ThWiFPNUtloesMryatJ8K9ICSI2nDWVsF574zVjVoYt8I7jr/M/cz43pAS5E YwNjsh3P/u6bN4yPSJaTJ0wg5nhYYTj9n0PmfJQomD3J3lY0KzLATyQrZmqqzK0yAvVL kbTP1V4frO2cReFmCkkhNz8Fuex6StzYOPunrFRKt+mNEg4FpO5xvubZrJX7fCsVsLNB C2hdODryFvShbTJ+x66Rn4eXFrLTG/ticq0PQHv1pTwb5NYwqvkhB28oFb14Ij7M1YeI s8jg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.85.137 with SMTP id n9mr13623776qgd.17.1424367297214; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.39.195 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:34:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:34:57 -0800 Message-ID: To: Leigh Cc: Dmitry Stogov , Joe Watkins , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Expectations From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Leigh wrote: > On 19 February 2015 at 15:45, Pierre Joye wrote: >> Still, no announce for a discussion about this specific RFC. And >> really, the content of the RFC is almost empty, pointing to the ML >> archive is really not the right way :) > > There was an RFC announce thread 3 days ago. I agree 3 days is a short > period of time, but the announce thread existed. Maybe it was a reply > to DbC with a changed subject and your mail client didn't show it as > new? I don't know, there was definitely a thread though. I mentioned that thread in my comment. It is still way behind what should be done when creating a new RFC, let alone pushing it to the vote phase. > On 19 February 2015 at 16:06, Pierre Joye wrote: >> I like the concept and idea but still not sure about the custom >> exception vs AssertException. > > Looking at the implementation, it seems that the custom exception > still has to descend from AssertException > > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1088/files#diff-232f2dffbb06c0b6004724d8a498e7e7R248 > > That seems like a good restriction to me. You can still catch > everything with AssertException but you can make it more specific if > you want. I did not comment on what should be done, while I do consider this open question as a blocker to actually take a good decision for this RFC. I do think it should be discussed, answered and voted either at the same time or before this RFC. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org