Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:83206 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57178 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2015 15:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Feb 2015 15:27:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.177 mail-ob0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.177] ([209.85.214.177:48876] helo=mail-ob0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 15/BD-18870-8D006E45 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:27:21 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so14784920obc.8 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:27:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6uH5iK3Xucc7bnqvOd6WxPI2B2lMp90F9nIRfxqZbEw=; b=LeGcnnqJtCdDYNhlDa35ySwFSiqUASMRHlDg4+41oH1fjvWwNVm2UdvInz6pwBqzl/ +vTkXxitrRGadSRFg4mRA4Ya7Z3YqsOdAv6CWslg1Sm0z1wYadZ4RUs9V3xQW6BBimz1 /oIEKigzvbT2NIalBUiA4u7R267A1oyyflIZBbqUO0t5J3KaJSUh9auGEiP+btK4cs+w Rb5VHJOFhItZIPgR4SPj0YDfwiim04OuRndvII0dbbmcO5dAdyFLTF9cfTitBlCLD/rL fiMbPB6HlJfXm63lihfaQr0uee9Vmt/+OjYZpKtXqn5t+ZR2oXLCq9Al5tQU2WL7Vvhc Grhw== X-Received: by 10.202.81.137 with SMTP id f131mr3088360oib.112.1424359637648; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:27:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.14.39 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:26:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:26:57 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113b01403c0948050f729242 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations v0.5) From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --001a113b01403c0948050f729242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-02-19 17:14 GMT+02:00 Pierre Joye : > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Arvids Godjuks > wrote: > > > I think this starts to go the route of putting things into absolute. > Ideal > > things tend not to happen/work in the real world to the letter. > > > > Some things just don't work out by themselves. The Type Hinting RFC's > are an > > anomaly in the regular PHP Core workflow and need some creative handling. > > No it is not an anomaly but a standard way for some since too long. > And we need to fix this. > I meant it in a way that no other RFC has failed so many times or had so much misunderstanding or divide. Sometimes it is required to ditch the preferences of people and do stuff for the greater good. Right now I see most people (not all) pushing their own agendas not really giving a damn over the big picture, the timeline and the fact that at this moment RFC already too late for 7.0 according to the Release Process RFC - they cannot be discussed and voted before the feature freeze. Yes, it can be pushed rather easily, but it means breaking the release process RFC again. See the pattern here? And we have the 0.4 version still being made, so it means it will be out for discussion probably next week. Or may not. --001a113b01403c0948050f729242--