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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Using Other Channels (was Scalar Type Declarations
 v0.5)
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> So rather than go for the 70-75% consensus that we **know** we have,

How we magically know that? We have the (unfinished) vote, which has a
tiny bit over 66% for the proposal. Where 75% comes from?

> Saying a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it go away.

Except if it really doesn't exist, so there's nothing to go away :)
Saying "static analysis" a hundred times doesn't magically makes it a
strong argument when nobody showed that it's impossible or even much
harder without it (many _claimed_ that, but I so far have seen very
little substantiation for these claims).
-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com