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Subject: Re: Reviving scalar type hints
From: theodorejb@outlook.com (Theodore Brown)

On Mon=2C Feb 16=2C 2015 at 18:58=2C Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:=
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> If nobody else does it=2C I will.=0A=
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> I think Andrea's 0.3 proposal was extremely well balanced=2C served=0A=
> everyone's needs whether they would admit it or not=2C and who's only=0A=
> failing (subjectively termed) was the use of declare().=A0 I think=0A=
> declare() is fine and not nearly as ugly as some have slandered it to=0A=
> be=2C but I'm willing to read the winds and modify it for v0.4.=0A=
> =0A=
> Straw poll:=0A=
> 1) <?php strict=3B=0A=
> 2) <?php-strict=0A=
> 3) use strict=3B (psuedo-namespace)=0A=
> 3) <?php // strict (I don't actually like HHVM's style=2C but if you do..=
.)=0A=
> 4) declare(strict=3Dtrue)=3B (As a top-level declare only)=0A=
> 5) declare(strict=3Dtrue)=3B (exactly as in v0.3 -- maybe you liked it)=
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> 6) your write-in vote here=0A=
> =0A=
> I'm not going to scope in union types=2C nullables=2C or falsables.=A0 We=
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> can leave that for a followup RFC=2C this one is contentious enough as=0A=
> it is.=0A=
> =0A=
> -Sara=0A=
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Thank you so much for taking this up again=2C Sara!=0A=
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From my userland perspective=2C I would prefer <?php-strict or <?php strict=
=3B=0A=
as those options are shortest and would stand out the most. However=2C I wo=
uld=0A=
also be okay with declare(strict=3Dtrue)=3B (as a top-level declare only).=
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use strict=3B has some appeal as a familiar syntax=2C but I think it also h=
as=0A=
the potential to cause confusion. Would it also have to be the first=0A=
statement in a file=2C or could other statements / declarations come first?=
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If it is required to be at the top=2C that would be inconsistent with exist=
ing=0A=
use statements. If not=2C however=2C then it could be easily missed among o=
ther=0A=
namespace imports.=0A=
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You probably already know about this=2C but FWIW Andrea had an incomplete=
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patch for the <?php strict syntax here:=0A=
https://github.com/TazeTSchnitzel/php-src/tree/scalar_type_hints_2_strict_a=
lt_syntax.=0A=
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Thanks again=2C=0A=
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Theodore Brown=0A=
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