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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Reviving scalar type hints
From: francois@php.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Laupretre?=)

> De=A0: Pascal Chevrel [mailto:pascal.chevrel@free.fr]
>
> Does it mean that in your mind the founders of the PHP language
> (basically Rasmus/Zeev/Andy) have a veto right on any RFC just because
> they are the founders, like in a company with shareholders? If out of
> 100 votes for a feature, 97 were pro but the 3 founders votes were
> against then the RFC is moot? What about the voters that have been
> actively making PHP alive in the last 4 years and that have more =
commits
> in PHP than the founders themselves?

I don't care so much about the founders, I value their opinion, even if =
it
is not a veto. I care more about consensus. I care about people ignoring
other's arguments because they stick to their misunderstandings. I also =
care
about respect.

And I think the people we are talking about gave a lot of suggestions =
and
use cases to find a compromise.

> Their opinion is of less value than
> the founders' just for historical reasons? Do you really think the new
> developers that arrived in the last years (and yes Andrea was one of
> them) are less skilled, less clever and have less vision than the
> founders had 15 years ago?

Less skilled : probably not
Less clever : oh no
Less vision : not sure. The problem is that we all have a different one. =
So,
it is not more or less vision, it is which is the right one ?

Regards

Fran=E7ois