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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:22:46 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Reviving scalar type hints
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre <francois@php.ne=
t>
> wrote:
> > Once again, anyone can take over version 0.3, if it is so great. Why
> don't you do it ?
> > I will play the game, stop working on my proposal, and vote 'yes' again=
.
> > But don't ask me to do it in your place.
> >
> If nobody else does it, I will.
>
> I think Andrea's 0.3 proposal was extremely well balanced, served
> everyone's needs whether they would admit it or not, and who's only
> failing (subjectively termed) was the use of declare().  I think
> declare() is fine and not nearly as ugly as some have slandered it to
> be, but I'm willing to read the winds and modify it for v0.4.
>
> Straw poll:
> 1) <?php strict;
> 2) <?php-strict
> 3) use strict; (psuedo-namespace)
> 3) <?php // strict (I don't actually like HHVM's style, but if you do...)
> 4) declare(strict=3Dtrue); (As a top-level declare only)
> 5) declare(strict=3Dtrue); (exactly as in v0.3 -- maybe you liked it)
> 6) your write-in vote here
>
> I'm not going to scope in union types, nullables, or falsables.  We
> can leave that for a followup RFC, this one is contentious enough as
> it is.
>

Thank you for taking over.

I like "use strict" and "declare as top-level only" most. The "<?php
strict" variants feel too ad-hoc.

Nikita

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