Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82906 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71973 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 23:58:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Feb 2015 23:58:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.42 mail-la0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.42] ([209.85.215.42:42701] helo=mail-la0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 61/F5-36518-E1482E45 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:58:22 -0500 Received: by labgf13 with SMTP id gf13so32713661lab.9 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:58:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kLiqeL59b2YwqMsgyXj2Xw75/73mBAof3W+2svAshPo=; b=Wln/7cbYlkSNk2bZqTy59/5/4xTvU7zu1uFB6cW3oT7hN876PLGFoWStTj4JCpCng6 neOSPOZPZ7DWuuHQBKlIPrawTHS9yj/8ByqD/Pz0Dl7p1LiIJPAdmn1v1aJ5QwhoFvYx YvKjxeAhzqZ/lNnpAEit71lPJv3mpaDFGwHX5rslgIvb0IcBocSwYAxhGDiDm519JQzW Wf98jeD6k7kDs9zYJ3vfvenN0WbaI61zhRseIvnWSKMX/g8gKS09+btL1FxiF2BHHq6l 25JOV2AIhDNppagcyN+SUGSkESKlSEKnkGTuesY07tC+UYm4hsV/FBjcmFWhHAUODtWq KhIw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlia1bOnPTXGJzzHunpY00MJRO4bFwoQ93XtxmaIRK2UafqFVC1LYfugVbayj7t3q9IlmsC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.45.100 with SMTP id l4mr25656896lam.112.1424131098631; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:58:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.112.126.65 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:58:18 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [199.201.64.2] In-Reply-To: <016f01d04a3a$e9183220$bb489660$@php.net> References: <011801d04a07$83ab1c00$8b015400$@php.net> <016f01d04a3a$e9183220$bb489660$@php.net> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:58:18 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NV3phqXHIQpjmhVnaMed6J8j0lM Message-ID: To: francois@php.net Cc: Philip Sturgeon , Arvids Godjuks , Jefferson Gonzalez , Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Reviving scalar type hints From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre = wrote: > Once again, anyone can take over version 0.3, if it is so great. Why don'= t you do it ? > I will play the game, stop working on my proposal, and vote 'yes' again. > But don't ask me to do it in your place. > If nobody else does it, I will. I think Andrea's 0.3 proposal was extremely well balanced, served everyone's needs whether they would admit it or not, and who's only failing (subjectively termed) was the use of declare(). I think declare() is fine and not nearly as ugly as some have slandered it to be, but I'm willing to read the winds and modify it for v0.4. Straw poll: 1)