Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82848 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44372 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 14:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Feb 2015 14:35:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jgmdev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jgmdev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jgmdev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.45 mail-qg0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.45] ([209.85.192.45:61742] helo=mail-qg0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EA/11-36518-E2002E45 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:35:26 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id h3so23549414qgf.4 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ukCoq0R5glq9WoOpIniRJ0B9cd7hz3alBwr0SWAbC0=; b=M9k4PImpgEF1O0jLSRWdpPaqVXrP7s6aF0MuGL2kIfjt7mZNLEeSt67zuplWRiCoNK b5e1yjmXPpWXDJGD6+z/+woD7Cu61NUCtwww2vjJTTGxKmMJGu9DyTz18iA/lQAIa6hR mZNMsqqECd7HahepmUYYolwYxkVtlxsbvZbp3IIb0cy4M+u7KQLGJkMoWHstPf5hkxrN L7UMB1vhwByR5alZp64ywZY2LFltGoR+0vXGHzBk2NSEKS06veb7NHw9fhtaVUECCPId mXQ5GQkbYaWbZpg/gISKW/FCGV7uOkda18z1nhZJZizUCP8fEAFkzwnYsr4JK5kPdjD2 oY0A== X-Received: by 10.140.151.85 with SMTP id 82mr2265733qhx.71.1424097323366; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.112] ([24.138.231.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 63sm3856076qhw.30.2015.02.16.06.35.21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:35:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E20027.1000809@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:35:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'Rowan Collins' , internals@lists.php.net References: <82D0FEAC-4B86-4589-A21B-51A9E8795D8A@ajf.me> <003e01d04976$77e0bc90$67a235b0$@php.net> <54E1CF5C.1050001@gmail.com> <00c801d049e3$f7b6f1b0$e724d510$@php.net> In-Reply-To: <00c801d049e3$f7b6f1b0$e724d510$@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] I quit. From: jgmdev@gmail.com (Jefferson Gonzalez) > You're right. I am probably expressing my own frustration when I imagine that withdrawing four important RFC s a few days before vote ends has little to do with time management issues. > > Let's stay politically correct and don't express anything about the atmosphere in the community, which has nothing to do with Andrea's decision. Anthony was more honest when he left, but you're right, that's probably more constructive to see people leave and say nothing. We have so many skilled and motivated internal developers ! > > Yes, that's frustration. I was just trying to express something beyond 'OK, we understand you're too busy, see you soon', but I am stopping now as you find it *annoying*. > > Regards > > François This is no joke, it is going to be really frustrating if this feature is abandoned. Isn't there someone capable and interested on taking the RFC? If the amount of votes required is 2/3 (66%), then adding the feature in was voted by majority (67/101 = 66%). Again this is really frustrating, I was already celebrating and planning how I could use/make the best of scalar type hints on existing code. Even salivating on all those optimizations planned by other individuals on the community. I hope this is continued by some one or Andrea has the time to come back and finish the great work she started. Sad day :(