Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82833 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7453 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 12:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Feb 2015 12:27:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:11458] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 26/82-29513-442E1E45 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 07:27:48 -0500 Received: from moorea (unknown [82.240.16.115]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781FA4B0163; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:27:32 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: To: "'Rowan Collins'" , References: <82D0FEAC-4B86-4589-A21B-51A9E8795D8A@ajf.me> <003e01d04976$77e0bc90$67a235b0$@php.net> <54E1CF5C.1050001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54E1CF5C.1050001@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:27:45 +0100 Message-ID: <00c801d049e3$f7b6f1b0$e724d510$@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHCUA0jzqya0kJEG7DP2hMSPlXfxQJAyBSDAaq4KIWc78UdsA== Content-Language: fr X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 150216-0, 16/02/2015), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] I quit. From: francois@php.net (=?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?=) > De : Rowan Collins [mailto:rowan.collins@gmail.com] > > Please can we take Andrea at her word: >=20 > > This isn=E2=80=99t a judgement of the PHP community nor the = internals mailing > list, you=E2=80=99re all wonderful people and it=E2=80=99s really been = a pleasure, and I > mean that completely honestly. >=20 > If people want to express their own frustrations at the community - = and > do so in a constructive way - then by all means start your own thread. > But it's kind of annoying to see everyone leaping to attach motives to > Andrea's exit which are completely different from those she stated, = just > because it fits their world view and gives them an excuse to talk = about it. You're right. I am probably expressing my own frustration when I imagine = that withdrawing four important RFC s a few days before vote ends has = little to do with time management issues. Let's stay politically correct and don't express anything about the = atmosphere in the community, which has nothing to do with Andrea's = decision. Anthony was more honest when he left, but you're right, that's = probably more constructive to see people leave and say nothing. We have = so many skilled and motivated internal developers ! Yes, that's frustration. I was just trying to express something beyond = 'OK, we understand you're too busy, see you soon', but I am stopping now = as you find it *annoying*. Regards Fran=C3=A7ois