Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82814 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72756 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 11:08:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Feb 2015 11:08:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.43 mail-wg0-f43.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.43] ([74.125.82.43:59216] helo=mail-wg0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BE/4F-05176-F9FC1E45 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 06:08:17 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id z12so15080898wgg.2 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:08:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yFEuSgfG5zH0y/JtjwlAytv3FnuJslfmX35QCrYR9o8=; b=j0FDy6IX019q0iQAygSxfPXUblaQxoX+LtApNYUy7W0yd30TTZPX6xkfDYxIN3cmMt uodYvyKey31HTfz533GKs3HETtpXuwQN26Pn9IsgEzzrQcxD/BIb+aBmFP+fBOHgduCm +8w/gvgIVhdDNIU9YS1dg5jbFba25AZRoDWa5CyekmW0b5PA38VIDc2iVJ3W8sCUwgYP 7acDG9bk1fCdvojT6cKLZhCiX9IWya0xb6bp8Gequ9e8zOlgKMTApT6b3aSBQNOdfVhZ Fv6qxOrxlu41StX04cIz6oKuBFLDUoqzuDzk074iwZbcLCEbBM2fiPdZmp0XDrH3Hw1e N5Ug== X-Received: by 10.180.19.9 with SMTP id a9mr13574129wie.85.1424084892887; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.172] ([62.189.198.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pp10sm22343852wjc.31.2015.02.16.03.08.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:08:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E1CF5C.1050001@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:07:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <82D0FEAC-4B86-4589-A21B-51A9E8795D8A@ajf.me> <003e01d04976$77e0bc90$67a235b0$@php.net> In-Reply-To: <003e01d04976$77e0bc90$67a235b0$@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] I quit. From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) François Laupretre wrote on 15/02/2015 23:23: >> De : Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] >> >> So, thank you, PHP community. It has been a wonderful 2 years. > That's very sad, but I understand it had gone too far. You're more important than any software project, take care of yourself. > > Unfortunately, the 'toxic kindergarden' claimed another victim. Not the first one, probably not the last one. Please can we take Andrea at her word: > This isn’t a judgement of the PHP community nor the internals mailing list, you’re all wonderful people and it’s really been a pleasure, and I mean that completely honestly. If people want to express their own frustrations at the community - and do so in a constructive way - then by all means start your own thread. But it's kind of annoying to see everyone leaping to attach motives to Andrea's exit which are completely different from those she stated, just because it fits their world view and gives them an excuse to talk about it. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]