Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82798 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43895 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 09:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Feb 2015 09:46:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.43 mail-qa0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.43] ([209.85.216.43:40016] helo=mail-qa0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 28/E9-05176-85CB1E45 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 04:46:00 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id bm13so21351810qab.2 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 01:45:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9r+c3VhGTnKCmSWP1H5jOpVt1Mi/LBj0aj+W9hVFWM0=; b=qR3lZvfrUV58eOK2kayMY7NicN/1XkyfK+i7z3JkIn6M7CKyVyfzmxqnOK18AX1dz1 r++v8kgBZUW0SaQaVsmSgHGYEQznPkRZ6of4basquRgbUiffT3FstZq1XtxsQPynvsiy 2i92OBpFM0rGmF/E/q8xsxYaQP+LURsZvAPX/dIPCi/DUL9srpz+6qvsMUZxPkRxtatA 7eKdgEM8MVq04MEtTl8EC/42eRharr7iSN2g/DHQb6gPpaRCffdjNY8+ztNEPBIFKYV5 iQ1ptenDQ3oXpL0KaruVP/MbII5j+f9ziFdvp/1RsQQH9W+xD10GCZWtXqT8aDJyv3KL AUqQ== X-Received: by 10.229.114.74 with SMTP id d10mr295624qcq.5.1424079957656; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 01:45:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.198.8 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 01:45:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:45:17 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: g9Ulhs-Spj6lZlYqZEwSKxtmEeM Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133c962020a60050f3174d1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Expectations From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a1133c962020a60050f3174d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Joe, On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: > I've had mostly negative feedback on the design-by-contract idea, maybe > it's a step too far. > I think introducing strict type safety for DbC like static/compiled languages is too far. I agree. The expectations RFC in its current form proposes that we introduce > zero-cost assertions, which are compatible with the current assertion API. > > Since this has been in discussion for quite some time, Dmitry and I > propose that the patch is rewritten for PHP7 and we get to voting as > quickly as we are able. > > Please review the RFC, and provide feedback, if there are no strong > objections we will go ahead with a vote when the patch is ready, in the > coming days. > Big +1 Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a1133c962020a60050f3174d1--