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[82.6.24.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dn1sm400215wid.11.2015.02.15.14.08.09 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:08:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E118BC.2010009@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:07:56 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <82D0FEAC-4B86-4589-A21B-51A9E8795D8A@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: <82D0FEAC-4B86-4589-A21B-51A9E8795D8A@ajf.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] I quit. From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 15/02/2015 21:21, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi everyone, > > For my own reasons, I have decided to cease my involvement with PHP development. This isn’t a judgement of the PHP community nor the internals mailing list, you’re all wonderful people and it’s really been a pleasure, and I mean that completely honestly. However, this has ended up taking up too much of my time (which is my own fault, and my own fault alone) and I can’t really justify it to myself anymore. > > So, I’m no longer contributing to PHP, and all four active RFCs authored by myself are therefore withdrawn: Scalar Type Hints, Spaceship/Combined Comparison Operator, Void Return Type, Big Integer Support. > > The first two were in voting, so the votes have been cancelled. > > If anyone would like to pick up from where I left off with any of these RFCs, they are very much welcome to - there is no need to consult me first (and it’s probably for the best if you don’t). The Spaceship/Combined Comparison Operator RFC was also authored by Davey Shafik, so ask him if you want to revive that one. > > I’m sorry about this, but it can’t be helped. I’d rather move on to other things. I would stick around to finish everything up before I leave, but I just don’t have the time nor the motivation to finish everything. I apologise for that, especially for Scalar Type Hints as I realise this is something a lot of developers were looking forward to. > > I’d leave quietly, but since this affects active RFCs, I need to announce it somewhere. > > So, thank you, PHP community. It has been a wonderful 2 years. I'm really really sorry to hear this. The energy you've put into the project recently has been really appreciated by many people, and I really admire your dedication to finding compromises to controversial topics. I can see, though, that it takes a lot of time to be that actively involved on a voluntary basis, and that a clean break might feel necessary to shift your focus. I hope to see your name in future, either in a less involved role in PHP, or in some other project. On a purely procedural note, though, is there some way the Scalar Type Hints RFC can be left in voting, as a vote in principle, while we wait for someone to step up and take over the implementation? There are only 4 days left, and with over 100 votes cast, it seems a shame to say that they were all meaningless, while leaving the door open to start all over again. I think it will hurt people's faith in the process to cancel now, and can't think of a particularly strong reason not to let the vote run its course before deciding what to do next. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]