Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82740 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80237 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2015 19:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Feb 2015 19:28:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@beccati.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@beccati.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain beccati.com designates 176.9.114.167 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@beccati.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 176.9.114.167 spritz.beccati.com Received: from [176.9.114.167] ([176.9.114.167:48563] helo=mail.beccati.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BB/8B-06835-163F0E45 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:28:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 2830 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2015 19:28:30 -0000 Received: from home.beccati.com (HELO ?192.168.1.202?) (88.149.176.119) by mail.beccati.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2015 19:28:30 -0000 Message-ID: <54E0F356.2060202@beccati.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:28:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Weinand , PHP Internals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [PRE-VOTE] Remove the date.timezone warning From: php@beccati.com (Matteo Beccati) On 15/02/2015 19:02, Bob Weinand wrote: > I'm probably going to put this into vote tomorrow. > > The RFC got some update from neutrality aspect and covers some > feedback from the initial discussion thread. > > The link is: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/date.timezone_warning_removal > Are you sure that "the ini file is created by the package maintainer and it includes the “date.timezone” setting" is true? Last time I checked it wasn't true across the board, so it's sounds more like wishful thinking at the moment. But I could be wrong, indeed. The current behaviour is also not described properly. The warning is displayed the first time some date/time functionality is employed. And while I'd agree that generally speaking date.timezone is not the most important setting, in that very moment it most likely is. Your particular problem could be easily fixed by using a common --with-prefix=/opt/php-build and putting the timezone in /opt/php-build/lib/php.ini, so I don't understand the urgency to change the behaviour for everyone... Anyway, let the voting begin ;) Cheers -- Matteo Beccati Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/