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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][VOTE] Group Use Declarations
From: ralph@ralphschindler.com (Ralph Schindler)


>
> You could very well argue that this is what relative syntax is for:
>
> use PhpParser\NodeVisitorAbstract;
> use PhpParser\Error;
> use PhpParser\Node;
> use PhpParser\Node\Stmt;
> use PhpParser\Node\Expr;
>
> then foo(Expr\New_ $expr)
>
> That is even more readable and cleaner to read.

+1

The current namespace implementation is there to group code, which is 
already does fairly successfully.

I have to wonder if it is PHPStorm, IDE's and the like that have 
"encouraged" people to only _use_ class names instead of a particular 
part of a namespace (even if it is up to the last fragment of the 
namespace name). That is a behavior I'd like to see curtailed in the PHP 
community, b/c as Benjamin points out above, syntax that uses up to the 
last NS fragment is far more succinct.

Question:

If curly braces are used to mimic block syntax, is the semicolon also 
allowed?  i.e:

use PhpParser:
     NodeVisitorAbstract, Error, Node;

use PhpParser\Node:
     Name, Name\FullyQualified;

use PhpParser\Node\Stmt:
     Namespace_, Use_, Class_, Interface_, Trait_, Function_,
     Const_, Catch_, TraitUse, TraitUseAdaptation\Precedence;

use PhpParser\Node\Expr:
     StaticCall, StaticPropertyFetch, ClassConstFetch, New_,
     Instanceof_, FuncCall, ConstFetch;

Is this something that should be considered?

-ralph