Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82564 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88198 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2015 22:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2015 22:36:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stelian.mocanita@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.175 mail-lb0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.175] ([209.85.217.175:40623] helo=mail-lb0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 09/61-15420-FCA2DD45 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:36:00 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id n10so12226545lbv.6 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:35:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rk9KkT0g3GGQOhPKy2WMS8kEhrHrY1vlrq0eyzSYUPQ=; b=uaCnqSgf2tY6BGVCc5GMEUUQZ0wB4g4G7lVojiKz05CpIOqUmWdbzg73TAJAiazRvJ q92HskHrhRjUreWIvZSjY2SyBYDoyUEUGKKRwG74QHDgX6S37oxFeaF/+ILUivCQK/Og 3HyPnUwzRF+bXtUMXAwOT2RfcReALTLwZ8g1zDszOPNUDql415nTJbr6m2KIajVQ30b2 WwX5VAqoqcDtVVQ90z9lFtbhf2SLSwGm5xcccxpVb7x61OQZYABJ936YQ29sqpdg675w cjpCkSXzgZ/uErzLlLI9rhpkt5wXOXC16GRIuMpKzvpVJzv6fbbZgaqup8ZDXBqtSdXO RkFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.40.201 with SMTP id z9mr5106804lbk.117.1423780556599; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:35:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: stelian.mocanita@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.73.10 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:35:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54DC788E.7000000@hoa-project.net> <54DCADFA.6070908@hoa-project.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:35:56 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HTgpkpHUAaBXZtRSxa61qqxq2fU Message-ID: To: reeze Cc: marcio3w@gmail.com, "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11347c5c507807050eebbef7 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][VOTE] Group Use Declarations From: stelianm@php.net (Stelian Mocanita) --001a11347c5c507807050eebbef7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Marcio, I am inclined to vote no for a couple of reasons: 1. This is not a BC-break, I would move the vote to PHP 7.1. The reasoning behind this is that the tools in the ecosystem will have a lot of work to get on par with PHP 7 (talking here about stuff like phpmd, phpcpd, phploc, newrelic, codeclimate, ides, etc). Since this is not as resonant as the other changes for 7, I would give those people some breathing room. 2. I am not a big fan of the syntax, I would much more like a python style syntax (yes, I am aware it requires a new reserver keyword) What are your thoughts on this? Stelian On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:38 PM, reeze wrote: > Definitely +1 for me. > That what I proposed before. you make it happened ;-) > > On 12 February 2015 at 22:25, Marcio Almada wrote: > > > > Yup sure. We are going to vote yes (behind my nickname). > > > However, while I agree with all your arguments, we have more syntax and > > more semantics, it's kind of confusing. > > > But it's a small one, > > > so +1 for us. > > > > I bet there is no way to add such a feature without adding at least a > small > > amount of syntax, and that's why I aimed for the minimal approach. Also, > > there is no better time to have it added other than on a major version > > release. > > > > Thanks for your questions and your vote :) > > > > > > -- > Reeze Xia > http://reeze.cn > --001a11347c5c507807050eebbef7--