Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82519 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42767 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2015 09:39:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2015 09:39:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.223.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.178 mail-ie0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.178] ([209.85.223.178:44462] helo=mail-ie0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C9/E3-13750-BC47CD45 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 04:39:25 -0500 Received: by iecar1 with SMTP id ar1so10487983iec.11 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 01:39:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lJgP3yqdo1KYepXMVe6x9wCVg0gt57tl+3f8PkKAvUw=; b=Hmct01s3s6piOJHOvqq4QvYjYn+38ldNwhN8G4TeM1x2t9Ht2xfaXUnXnuh8ZpJ75A inNARBdg4ZGEi0PvsFA92oeK9bzAW2RsSRKarsc+20KvfhztfiVsDzCrvPN4FKEsWZGN n9MvCNkfxTNJc0aOBwMmRlWrldC0urF3LGSY5x1Y5NOG9D+FhxZ09sqiKAvg4PRTTtCg ZCrY0w1sTmD1YYc3SmybVVKfCFcnCxiYfxYIaJxKeJfr+15BNJsTuhiaPJ7adU3UwUux +YWs0IZ6gOMo3K42Djxs2MpyN2HhKCHfvyT/Jd+8XiLtI0STwHifZh3aDnTLCmnrU8U8 RhUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4+VFc/LtOHGWi5AoTjET8mAl1Mj6HkwVKMcmy2ezy61O5bIwN31CpiQjD9YK1Oc2sjqGzfRrDejYS6vO1KlToqf5gBqh9EHqCcfjGfdFPS1KWGtoBw7y29Nn6BL28R0FADHwTNKx5ZlLWKkAtsjjbRoeL7w== X-Received: by 10.50.78.131 with SMTP id b3mr2744883igx.0.1423733960403; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 01:39:20 -0800 (PST) References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <54DAF884.7000508@lerdorf.com> <203e611c8e0b03568a868b8d931aec37@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJMIZG9mXkdirFXmuP9r5ZK3xIuzQJbJJA/AzCIQggCYWllLQKBurkXAYsw6s4B6qYCMgJyi3UFAQ5yPQ6baddlgA== Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:39:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Benjamin Eberlei Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > @Zeev: I don't like being used, singling out only my blog post because it > proves your opinion, where clearly there were other posts in favour of > strict > mode typing, for exampl e ircmaxell his. Benjamin, As we discussed in personal exchanges, I really don't think I 'used' you and it certainly wasn't my intent. I thought your blog, as well as Rasmus' comments, did a good job at illustrating the shortcomings of the current RFC with real world examples - and thought (and still think) it would be a good idea for others to read it. FWIW, when people link to blog posts of mine as a recommended read I view this as a compliment, never as a negative thing. I didn't agree with the points made in Anthony's blog so I didn't link to it, but obviously, proponents of the current RFC are free to do so and did so. > You are not doing your opinion a > good service imho, by being so obviously political about this issue. I'm really not obviously or otherwise 'political' about this issue. We're dealing with technology here. Much like Andrea, Anthony and others genuinely believe that this RFC is good for PHP - me and many others believe it's bad for PHP. Thanks, Zeev