Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82291 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77951 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2015 17:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 2015 17:12:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.46 mail-qa0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.46] ([209.85.216.46:48548] helo=mail-qa0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E2/B0-05327-67AE8D45 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:12:23 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id n4so1585184qaq.5 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:12:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bxqb29FXWiWg8SIzI08egg4sjx6uZlEEpi1EznymY6g=; b=RL7zV3OwulSVNN3lZGwW+aSOYCO7gDyQVzmVxT/mrhW6v9bwXNt9/8SVHBaLj9C6hX XSa7u1+rhURXJxNMcQhNjCDaiv4K40DMI+XWasIs8rlWKi6vp2Mq8Clv0nRDk87suAea Q8+z4BiWB1uyT6tS5w1bNObckbV3PRCh+DYCGbfYz4S7JX0PXAnKNkX969WR1+VkwKWJ XMEH5aWhqpdmqk85Hx9C9M7Yp4owagj2S5/z/ii5Flrw7E+5yzb16ZlDiTUvVWWBoJeO SuLHAkKqx8bFZXEIZrhNl1DipsjpXnimEU4kQtQENjaZhrMMmdlBkIs0pGVpt7PPmyC1 f9QQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.39.84 with SMTP id u78mr40039544qgu.63.1423501940097; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.185.37 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.185.37 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:12:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3399a072b6cb66434e72c5f5b37d5df0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <54D5659D.5000602@php.net> <54D7A6DB.3050209@seld.be> <74136F1E-817F-4A33-8228-B47045DD65C3@ajf.me> <54D7EB44.9010005@gmail.com> <54D7F972.4010107@seld.be> <2013B2A4-74E6-4452-8A48-E749DCBEA2EF@zend.com> <6C020C7F-85C0-4C88-8766-48CEDA6290F8@ajf.me> <3399a072b6cb66434e72c5f5b37d5df0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:12:19 +0700 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP internals , Andrea Faulds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c129687a0a14050eaadf07 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a11c129687a0a14050eaadf07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Feb 10, 2015 12:03 AM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 12:44 PM > > To: Zeev Suraski > > Cc: Jordi Boggiano; internals@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints > > > > Hi, > > > > > On 9 Feb 2015, at 03:48, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > > > A - has pretty much everybody agreeing with is a good idea. Nobody > > objects to it. It's under consensus. > > > > This isn't true. I've explained why it isn't true several times. Maybe > you are > > suffering from confirmation bias or something, but there is no such > > "consensus". Quite a few internals contributors liked v0.1. Quite a few > didn't. > > I've gone and evidenced this before in replies sent directly to you. > > Andrea, > > I'll make an absolute last attempt to explain what I'm saying, after that > we can agree to disagree. We probably interpret the same facts > differently. > > Fact is, there were very few people who said that weak types are *bad* > (although Sebastian seems to fall in that category). The vast majority of > feedback that 'opposed' weak typing, didn't really oppose weak typing at > all. Oh wait. So the waste majority actually willing this RFC actually want another? This is fantastic.... Anyway, no worry, opposed ppl managed to get this amazing RFC shot down. Prepare your own to do exactly what you want, how you want, many will accept it as default choice despite it being a poor choice. A deja vu feeling is popping up in my mind. Well played. --001a11c129687a0a14050eaadf07--