Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82253 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97311 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2015 09:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 2015 09:54:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@beccati.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@beccati.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain beccati.com designates 176.9.114.167 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@beccati.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 176.9.114.167 spritz.beccati.com Received: from [176.9.114.167] ([176.9.114.167:58197] helo=mail.beccati.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7C/49-50460-0E388D45 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 04:54:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 27565 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2015 09:54:36 -0000 Received: from home.beccati.com (HELO ?192.168.1.202?) (88.149.176.119) by mail.beccati.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2015 09:54:36 -0000 Message-ID: <54D883D2.5020009@beccati.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 10:54:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Marston , internals@lists.php.net References: <54D606D2.7030102@lsces.co.uk> <54D73248.9030509@lsces.co.uk> <14.24.24707.48937D45@pb1.pair.com> <54D74C68.6070402@beccati.com> <25.F8.50460.1C288D45@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <25.F8.50460.1C288D45@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dragging the legacy users forward. From: php@beccati.com (Matteo Beccati) On 09/02/2015 10:49, Tony Marston wrote: > But there is a vociferous group who want to change the language in a > revolutionary way instead of an evolutionary way. They want to drop weak > typing and replace it with strict typing, they want to replace a lot of > function names with something "more consistent", and they want PHP to > have a "purer" OO model so that instead of "string = > strtoupper($string)" you must use "$string->toUpper". These > revolutionaries want PHP 7 to be a different language, not an extension > of the existing PHP 5 version. I don't see any such RFC for PHP7. So it's probably worth if we avoid complaining about something that's not being proposed and certainly not going to happen. Cheers -- Matteo Beccati Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/