Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82240 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74131 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2015 08:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 2015 08:30:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pajousek@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pajousek@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pajousek@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.50 mail-qg0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.50] ([209.85.192.50:61071] helo=mail-qg0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 46/84-50460-72078D45 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:30:32 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id e89so6282024qgf.9 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vS/NWMCzuUdWmJ3FyQhrxfoTGCydot02oSsteE9SN8s=; b=rmf5RTufJSlcIhbsAjf6rMwwLAAqlnkL6brY/FLFj1AZb4mjL3V32rpTfPY0FCftz0 7V1Qbf4yi+5WqdyeT6VXRJ1bRYikCXSuMJDx5lbxfKCseKAIT1p2IMf9NnsDnA50cYvc kM0yMQu/sQrSG65oSZB6AxnO5SpRIeTzG3QMmvJtrOP7Owzi/mQ8kblg2/FMKJSCnE5a cNe6HF3a/aOWlyo1LLZSekoW5KzMwk8Ch/GUrHhgMLmfKQpwE/dJr2RswtU6U7MvZyoI 3QEL6JRNTM36UCSXgdRq+qvAtgz1oJ+bFPjkGCVYmcRA83Z5+mkXQ5kZH3kmvuiSClIn oRjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.125.133 with SMTP id y5mr25925616qcr.17.1423470628711; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.66.201 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 00:30:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <54D5659D.5000602@php.net> <54D7A6DB.3050209@seld.be> <0a344270616df2c33c8a1f5db2df08a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:30:28 +0100 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Dmitry Stogov , Matthew Leverton , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: pajousek@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Kou=C5=99il?=) On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > I am not saying I want one or the other (I have voted and now only > focus on solving possible tech issues we may find) but trying to be > fair with Andrea's RFC and amazing effort: > > What you ask is basically part of the RFC already, your code can be > strict free if you wish to, or it will be by default. Only issue is > the massive misunderstanding behind the declare(strict) thing. > > Cheers, > Pierre I'm not saying one or the other - I mean two votes, one for the "basic" weak typing and if it passes, then vote for adding the declareable optional strict typing. Now it is unfortunately "both or neither".