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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:19:16 +0100
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To: Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints
From: pajousek@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Kou=C5=99il?=)

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
> this is more or less true. :(
> The proposal is presented in an unfair way to include strict typing without
> the ability to vote for weak types only.
>
> Despite of semantic arguments, the implementation is a bit immature and
> introduces slowdown for any code without type hints.
>
> Thanks. Dmitry.
>
>

This is something I mentioned several times - there should be two
votes. One for weak types and one for adding the strict typing on the
weak typing as a bonus. Not bundling it into one voting, it makes it
feel "forced".


Pavel Kouril