Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82194 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86264 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2015 23:45:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 2015 23:45:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.199 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.199 imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.199] ([192.64.116.199:56159] helo=imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0C/BB-26926-425F7D45 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 18:45:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F1E8800E5; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:45:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap11.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap11.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sVI3VRVnLDWG; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 043A58800D5; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 18:45:36 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 23:45:33 +0000 Cc: smalyshev@gmail.com, internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <54D5659D.5000602@php.net> <54D7A6DB.3050209@seld.be> <74136F1E-817F-4A33-8228-B47045DD65C3@ajf.me> <54D7EB44.9010005@gmail.com> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Zeev, > On 8 Feb 2015, at 23:24, Zeev Suraski wrote: >=20 > It's not stretching the truth or even slightly bending it, considering = the > RFC currently being voted on is a superset of that RFC. That has no relevancy. > There's zero or virtually zero controversy surrounding the weak typing = RFC, > the one that was v0.1. The controversy wasn't (and isn't) about what = was in > v0.1, but rather, about what wasn't in there, namely, strict typing; So, then, there was controversy around that RFC. > The way it should have went is voting on the weak typing RFC, around = which > there was (and probably still is) almost consensus. Again, there was not consensus. The RFC was controversial, especially = outside of internals, but even on internals around half the people who = responded *were not positive*. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/