Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:82140 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78395 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2015 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 2015 13:32:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@thekid.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@thekid.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain thekid.de from 212.227.126.130 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@thekid.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.126.130 mout.kundenserver.de Received: from [212.227.126.130] ([212.227.126.130:56159] helo=mout.kundenserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 08/11-04095-C5567D45 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 08:32:13 -0500 Received: from oxbaltgw04.schlund.de ([172.19.246.10]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LqpCY-1XgSa30vRa-00eJnD for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 14:32:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 14:32:09 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Timm Friebe To: Internals Message-ID: <482375682.216572.1423402329172.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbaltgw04.schlund.de> In-Reply-To: <6C71C0BA-2B52-48D3-9AC9-41EEDD824EC5@ajf.me> References: <162384795.216427.1423397046700.JavaMail.open-xchange@oxbaltgw01.schlund.de> <6C71C0BA-2B52-48D3-9AC9-41EEDD824EC5@ajf.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.6.0-Rev36 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ebThCyQnSXJuQCOFECW/U5agIeVyh+VT9x/DkywDzN7WMpXC538 0OSYbCuXF3Ak/wF5IwgFcaXR3FZCkrn1PXsrpmGu3e1oyi7OzasRwlsLaxssnY3Tff+nah0 157972mgqzZxyXEEzs2eIQ1zm3C1T2rU5mIDbraMLwmHg8I8t5vb7MtAdHtLgdpwOw6RMJc 7X2z0lM03ILsPZP1lgJiQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Reserving primitive types From: php@thekid.de (Timm Friebe) Hi, > > I personally see the benefits this could have but also the BC break this > > would > > introduce. [...] > I don't see the point of this: the Scalar Type Hints RFC already has a voting > option on reserving the type names, and it is set to pass, so by the time your > RFC could go to a vote, it would have been rendered redundant. My point is to prevent adoption hurdles *before* PHP 7's release. PHP 5 was a sad story in regard to this. PHP 7 shouldn't be; and doesn't have to: So far, PHP 7 has stayed largely BC-break free, which is good for its adoption. I believe more than just yes and no should be considered in this case, which breaks existing code - not just in edge cases and in near-bug-scenarios. Timm