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Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 18:07:47 +0700
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To: Tony Marston <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Feb 7, 2015 5:01 PM, "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Stelian Mocanita"  wrote in message
news:CAMc0WS6+1Y-5yJW2s=mW+ynS6tN8M5iEaXe10MWnLrL0_dZUMg@mail.gmail.com...
>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The folks who really want all this great strict typing should head over
to
>>> Oracle.com and download free open-source Java? I hear it's got a lot of
>>> strict typing features in it. Only downside is that it'll take them 10x
>>> longer to complete their projects. OK sorry. Had to say that :) I
realize
>>> it's not the same...
>>
>>
>> Sending people who want to have more structure in the language to Java
>> is downright bad, not to mention that it sounds completely dictatorial. I
>> would just put that in the next Zend newsletter to make it clear for your
>> customers that there is a saner option.
>>
>> Stelian
>>
>
> It is not as bad as saying "PHP has been weakly typed for the past 20
years, but PHP 7 will be strictly typed, so every developer will have to
change his entire codebase in order for his application to run under PHP
7". If you are one of those who "cannot" program in a language which
doesn't have strict typing, then why are you using PHP in the first place?
Why aren't you using Java as Andi suggested?
>
> If you want to change the typing mechanism in PHP then remember that it
*IS* weakly typed whether you like it or not, and will  always be so. If
you want to introduce strict typing then it must be optional, and it must
not interfere with any of the existing PHP 5 applications.

Tony, I had to resist not to jump into this but here we go.

Please double check the RFC, what it does, propose and its impact by
default on existing codes. Call it doing your homework. Then reconsider
your reply.

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