Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81987 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10799 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2015 00:02:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2015 00:02:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.216.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.52 mail-qa0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.52] ([209.85.216.52:33216] helo=mail-qa0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FE/06-17766-59404D45 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:02:29 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x12so8420467qac.11 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=He0OHidjBCXxPFNE/fv511QgACRAYToYnTsfK0DPQW0=; b=UB5CyIoFhc5TzvJ+HbQAbNFcQHX9F9i443m3oef8MtdaZ+W89A69FDIvaSK6rExTUT njFOu8PN9LvyQOT56HRsIiFiZNOCSUevRLr6xrX7oD9tq4+HOkyS3sLlplE5DeUJzXKk E/sKhP9jnVzgGiCg1sASk4BvIDz4LQUjZcrARqv8KPynE5RUZJlJOYHssfO1BbfQJaTd t4Jvfo8njGXzcT6zHZpIjWhR1Ufi5Puc0qD35NULmz/Za6sswEfoxwYXmPbMFG4wV/wh VPAg/RwHPQes7wNkLRCeTFAZ3Nkl2Nid4Sapwclf03uU2TA9df28zw8V4JvI3OMc5mg2 DvpA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnqQMFdda15x2UcUK8QIDJrUh9ELV//2OImKoStng7tDsxXJhykG8pyXKgcqtphV/crk5szKtxP7BfXnHl1IidtfBLOQdlIVB5GdVVjD9kk/A/nMhCVvZaHMUBgDAfOUe56ya7RPRIFkp3ijbv5LOD0dXKiNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.48.67 with SMTP id n61mr1766368qga.82.1423180946867; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.83.211 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <563A7DA0-8334-49F3-97CC-0787BE8191DA@ajf.me> References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <20150205234432.933F5261BE9@dd15934.kasserver.com> <563A7DA0-8334-49F3-97CC-0787BE8191DA@ajf.me> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:02:26 -0800 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Thomas Bley , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113519c4ca2399050e60227d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) --001a113519c4ca2399050e60227d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi Andi, > > > On 5 Feb 2015, at 23:50, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > > > I am not sure. > > > > I think we need to explicitly vote on a weak type hinting option. > > Andrea, I think this should be an option in any vote. Right now it feel= s > like the only option to people is the very challenging, non-consensus > driving RFC or nothing. > > I think we have plenty of key folks who would support weak type hinting > and frankly, I think that would be a huge win for everyone! > > Yes, *you* think it=E2=80=99s a huge win for everyone. There are plenty w= ho=E2=80=99d > disagree. > > This RFC is a different attempt at consensus. Rather than asserting the > dominance of one idea over the other and completely ignoring the segment = of > the community that believes in a particular approach, it allows using bot= h > approaches. It allows choice. It=E2=80=99s radical, sure, but I think try= ing to > accommodate everyone=E2=80=99s use cases (or at least most people=E2=80= =99s) is better than > covering only one of two. > Just to be clear, I think it's a thoughtful RFC. I don't think it's dumb. I can even see where you're coming from on trying to balance the approaches. I do think we should also represent the weak type hinting only folks in a ballot too. Andi --001a113519c4ca2399050e60227d--