Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81986 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10271 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2015 00:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2015 00:02:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=narf@devilix.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=narf@devilix.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain devilix.net designates 209.85.218.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: narf@devilix.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.49 mail-oi0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.49] ([209.85.218.49:61286] helo=mail-oi0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C3/F5-17766-C7404D45 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:02:07 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id x69so917765oia.8 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:02:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uoVgVepw6We5RhjxD8S7Nynd2FMjLZADVnW0EBBqY3s=; b=IXLzt3UiWU8/EanfmJfuXjnIgKthE2BGNLyFoIKUCzUZYWeXOEYSsog7b3UFPN0M6C blQSmLcLPtEoZaXlTLYNgiov0NofSGyFB/NcVcp6PcjwUdC7/xyL8cEpDWPTY+fJrYX/ 4COa72zYNUOa5b7qI/+26iXhmmfdjr670dfl4= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uoVgVepw6We5RhjxD8S7Nynd2FMjLZADVnW0EBBqY3s=; b=FdOJxIWzgqgIDbOmkwo/WcL34CBTAqc6doI6cccaxTnWI67Vf7gO66WGTJghQZWdB3 r8pQeDpqtacZN8qjubP/LCkH51AU/VDtP3etNlOm1Z1yDgAIyHKDntUGkDHIktaGB/5d YTDAnzDw7Ckd0VtY/GhYPAYoXR2Ipp06tb+0litbk4OQtIc+MGIZKO51TdBFesMkfR4C y1OW0+2vr+U5g7iTIu3F/XwcXgO5dWNOlx64dx/UuUFpJSfGPyRTrzQzwTOPvNUfmSvk fqYgzkzP8L4KdsI4wS/nJKKmjuxJXrsGhppUVbnCBPV9Ak3i7jhKE/EV8/6oCpWSkE8l JrIA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmCEgV5UP5PIGMUdTgVbOjB23HVszKLMwi5426CBoEZiix3jtsVhKNKMgBUqVoXamlm4cxd MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.83.134 with SMTP id h128mr507899oib.97.1423180920797; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.214.205 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:02:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 02:02:00 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Dan Ackroyd , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi Andrea, On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi Dan, > >> On 5 Feb 2015, at 23:41, Dan Ackroyd wrote: >> >> ... >> >> Additionally Andrea, I am disappointed that you opened voting without >> a option with the 'declare' stuff removed. This is despite myself >> having asked you for an vote option for just strict types directly >> several times. Other people have asked for a vote option that allows >> strict and weak types with a different syntax. > > Yes, I realise you and others have asked for such things. I disagree with= you there and I don=E2=80=99t think adding strict types to PHP is really a= good idea. I=E2=80=99d prefer we have more rather than less consistency be= tween userland and internals. > >> I realise that the RFC as it stands is your preferred option, but just >> not accepting feedback during an RFC is not appropriate. > > I have listened to feedback. But listening to feedback and agreeing to an= y and all suggestions are not the same thing. > It's fine that you disagree. But enabling others to disagree with you via votes would've been more fair. With the available options, it's either your way or no way. Cheers, Andrey.