Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81983 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5567 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2015 23:53:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 2015 23:53:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.208 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.208 imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.208] ([192.64.116.208:51208] helo=imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 16/E4-17766-18204D45 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 18:53:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB798C007B; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:53:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nV2JDVYfHviU; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 528D48C0075; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:53:34 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 23:53:31 +0000 Cc: Thomas Bley , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <563A7DA0-8334-49F3-97CC-0787BE8191DA@ajf.me> References: <8703B53E-2C4A-4AC6-95C4-D4F19C6D5221@ajf.me> <20150205234432.933F5261BE9@dd15934.kasserver.com> To: Andi Gutmans X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Scalar Type Hints From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Andi, > On 5 Feb 2015, at 23:50, Andi Gutmans wrote: >=20 > I am not sure. >=20 > I think we need to explicitly vote on a weak type hinting option. > Andrea, I think this should be an option in any vote. Right now it = feels like the only option to people is the very challenging, = non-consensus driving RFC or nothing. > I think we have plenty of key folks who would support weak type = hinting and frankly, I think that would be a huge win for everyone! Yes, *you* think it=E2=80=99s a huge win for everyone. There are plenty = who=E2=80=99d disagree. This RFC is a different attempt at consensus. Rather than asserting the = dominance of one idea over the other and completely ignoring the segment = of the community that believes in a particular approach, it allows using = both approaches. It allows choice. It=E2=80=99s radical, sure, but I = think trying to accommodate everyone=E2=80=99s use cases (or at least = most people=E2=80=99s) is better than covering only one of two. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/