Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81833 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64444 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2015 18:44:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2015 18:44:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.208 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.208 imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.208] ([192.64.116.208:36630] helo=imap2-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/54-40930-78862D45 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 13:44:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4538C007D; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:44:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lf0JLwXvaPMO; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E18DD8C0082; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:44:19 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 18:44:17 +0000 Cc: Florian Margaine , Leigh , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <6A16DC0A-FF24-4A64-8AB7-5387BC87EDC1@ajf.me> References: <85CB3199-8D44-4D34-9212-6E18D6BD7B73@ajf.me> To: Andrey Andreev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What do we need strict scalar type hints for? From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi, > On 4 Feb 2015, at 18:41, Andrey Andreev wrote: >=20 > I didn't want to turn this thread into a re-iteration of the RFC > discussion one. I'm just completely surprised how relentlessly all > suggestions about two syntaxes have been waved off by a callee vs > caller argument like it's a golden rule or something ... it's not, you > just don't like the other approach. I think it=E2=80=99s a shorthand for listing, again, all the problems = with shifting the choice onto the caller. The subject has been debated to death. People aren=E2=80=99t being = dismissive - the problems with it have already been covered extensively. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/