Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81790 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69824 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2015 09:14:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Feb 2015 09:14:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.41 mail-qg0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.41] ([209.85.192.41:56084] helo=mail-qg0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1A/23-55046-F03E1D45 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 04:14:55 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id q108so299649qgd.0 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iPpoAYeS519MnPD1Ji1ciY1gMWSZrfRqr2pCAGnNvD8=; b=tUyGCMZJ2978aeczai0p1gZwJ9/FPZFuCEB9aXaeDw3w6YTVSC2VAqi4CwHbDgx7Uw iPqkO9jGdz3J2ZGbuV3246oDqfohniieJHaGgkY1yscRMwpUq/PnB7BLzwpAdSJ/iHMX dTAt7RuUx9JGrUdvqc6DYsM7UmwQq0JFk74Ato/KizS9pQVSAQ8tcqUmLCRsmMOEJJOT b7ebUCsKGsylTLHAy5KAJqIfCYzhIWhDsdM9YagaRNEM+F54/XM1q2d0+9jIIxOyDdyP UN3j7GrBolWd0adgvq5tksHRFXc/V6oqqueQs6+hjljmYLI0ioVrHBdxU6WrYZkBw+DL D8SA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.85.211 with SMTP id n77mr58847272qgd.17.1423041292841; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.3.168 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54D1DFE8.6090000@gmail.com> References: <54D1BC7D.5000504@gmail.com> <54D1C59C.5070008@gmail.com> <54D1DFE8.6090000@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:14:52 +0700 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Anatol Belski , Adam Harvey , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Removal of dead or not yet PHP7 ported SAPIs and extensions From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> However, I totally fail to understand your reasoning. We know both >> libraries are dead. ext/Imap is almost not used anymore by any major > > > What you mean by "major tool relying on imap"? I've used ext/imap > multiple times in the past, and I know others do too. Of course, there > are different libraries, so what - there are also libraries that support > HTTP or JSON, that's not the reason to remove HTTP or JSON support from > PHP. > >> tool relying on imap, Which appealing reasons do you have to force us >> to have to maintain them for the next decade? > > The same reason as for other things - it is useful and being used. If > you have reasons why not, I'm fine with considering them, but so far it > has been a bit vague. The fact that the library is not updated doesn't > mean it doesn't work. If it doesn't work - fine, let's see where it > doesn't work and decide then. ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap last release: 7/23/11 Now, considering its status (read: it is dead since 4 years), the way it works (you know it kills the process on some error right? f.e.) along other bugs (check the imap various support questions etc), and you still all good to keep it around for the next decade? Fine. It is in voting, so let see the results and move on. I however consider this as an extremely bad decision. But I do not care enough to battle it to death. Waste of time to argue about that. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org