Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81734 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54252 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2015 19:59:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2015 19:59:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=martin.keckeis1@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=martin.keckeis1@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: martin.keckeis1@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.174 mail-ob0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.174] ([209.85.214.174:63959] helo=mail-ob0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/17-20608-7B821D45 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:59:52 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wo20so20570936obc.5 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:59:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/B+1YoAZKBi5FvToD4iBaYJapoXJ8wCB/yAFdYdMuhY=; b=LG4K8nDRwobA5xfd2CI6iAjAvy9dmnZyDWKY4PUh1tI1Ba5n+AFW28clTlgVFlfbDJ +d2HG2HnUUZG/lbM8E15Wkqd4I8ju9rv5y+XBxFjCIuds7R3at/Oexg06ZZ2mcc2J4nA BLNhR5GQbkxPVuo8vs7MIfXsGtPmHDtV6Fo4quiIn1YLybUVcfAN5iZcm/kXA1+ljVjb NfKi/8Tlus45QDoZqlZFuRtHuTTv+ZxfYJnhZc3bP/VPVSrayjXqVrzUVCwNZuj5V+ic zSXADFqI1bGas85x7dux7gMa3LAYIcGI/bECZIkkrYbIuS/6PuYlJTi40TaxLueZkZl0 +k0w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.213.38 with SMTP id np6mr16461231obc.34.1422993588101; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.204.215 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.204.215 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:59:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <06F175EB-D44A-445F-8015-8421C7C12F39@ajf.me> References: <8C47FA53-0964-49C0-963C-332A936348A5@ajf.me> <54D00C40.8060907@lsces.co.uk> <54C5DC93-9600-4EE2-BF06-7BF10FC6AD5C@ajf.me> <54D08D50.5050407@lsces.co.uk> <1C2ED70C-72A0-4513-A134-5DAE4CCA5B3D@ajf.me> <54D0DFE5.9030602@lsces.co.uk> <06F175EB-D44A-445F-8015-8421C7C12F39@ajf.me> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 20:59:47 +0100 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30d14562748050e34839e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Big Integer Support From: martin.keckeis1@gmail.com (Martin Keckeis) --001a11c30d14562748050e34839e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 03.02.2015 17:44 schrieb "Andrea Faulds" : > > > > On 3 Feb 2015, at 14:49, Lester Caine wrote: > > > > On 03/02/15 14:03, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> But I don=E2=80=99t consider 0.25MB extra to be such a problem in prac= tice. The PHP binary is already huge, and every system running PHP will have ample memory. > > > > Yes one approach is 'computers are getting faster with lots of memory' > > ... and for servers this is not a problem ... they will more than > > likely be 64bit anyway! But for smaller embedded devices php *IS* > > becoming an option so I don't have to program in C or something else, > > and then we look to strip everything that does not need to be present. > > Sure, but I don=E2=80=99t think we shouldn=E2=80=99t cripple the language= merely for the sake of really low-end embedded devices. Also, I=E2=80=99m not convinced th= at the overhead, at least in terms of file size, is really that big of an issue. > > Just for you, I=E2=80=99ve gone and compiled the bigint branch (with LibT= omMath) and master on my machine: > > $ ls -l php7-* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajf staff 6400408 3 Feb 16:39 php7-bigint > -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajf staff 6248920 3 Feb 16:42 php7-master > > The difference is a mere 151488 B, or 151 KB. > > Is that really so bad? > > -- > Andrea Faulds > http://ajf.me/ > > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > Please get this mayor feature finally into the core.... In the current century a real 64bit support is not discussable anymore... --001a11c30d14562748050e34839e--