Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81611 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74380 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2015 16:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Feb 2015 16:53:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.170 mail-ob0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.170] ([209.85.214.170:51667] helo=mail-ob0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 82/78-34915-68BAFC45 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:53:26 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id va2so5964781obc.1 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:53:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oqJFoRny36l0vAbUz7IGhoExx0Ez1GvgTyCuyzoRxPk=; b=rqyAOtjSVe7Azkc7+XSk8FYSy1gXi5hh7zwANguHp+n7FfpiHEuPbuoJKn4StTHTkx VKKta5zbTg43pGinfN3hdi1rbMzvEpnZwDugBydDUx1z6pSD/B6NMIn15DnMqVKQunIP 2TuVJFwh+H/BhbdzJpbX008Yts8ZEyJQ1ARCWHFgSFIHSvdoPNLX3GZF0p4EFed8bdKX KcMl/Ft9jY+/IYuxBk9e00aZmmwmCxU+f8cf4fFxjJ7wr35+f/ZXs0/zS72MV77FS8Aq xjJd+sHGZs4qRcPAdCkhoRQM/6IPWn5c7vsQRkflnIvrvyS7t3PYlIJ/W7D2/x1ECsoL /O7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.215.163 with SMTP id oj3mr12624385obc.49.1422896003823; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:53:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.103.37 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 08:53:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:53:23 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TjsdawTvbsCt5-9mDITPRFS5n_Q Message-ID: To: Paul Dragoonis Cc: Dmitry Stogov , PHP Internals , Andrea Faulds , Nikita Popov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] What do we need strict scalar type hints for? From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) > A use case would be where scalar type hints are detrimental are: > > I implement an API that returns integers for entity ids, like 2,3,4,5,6. > and my web-frontend handles this fine because it's a scalar. Then, you want > to convert entity ids to UUID. This would break your entire web frontend > application since it's no longer "integer" whereas the concept of $id is > good enough. Others are of the opinion that the type of the value is an important detail that *should* be managed by something other than automatic conversion. I'm going to be fairly busy with work for the next few days but I'll try to remember to come back and give a few good examples I have for strict values.