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 Content preview:  Hello Andrea, On 02.02.15 00:49, Andrea Faulds wrote: > The
    RFC has been updated to cover return types, since Levi’s Return Types RFC
    has passed. The patch is a work in progress: it works, but lacks tests for
    return types. > > Version 0.3 of the RFC can be found here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/scalar_type_hints
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Scalar Type Hints v0.2
From: markus@fischer.name (Markus Fischer)

Hello Andrea,

On 02.02.15 00:49, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> The RFC has been updated to cover return types, since Levi’s Return Types RFC has passed. The patch is a work in progress: it works, but lacks tests for return types.
> 
> Version 0.3 of the RFC can be found here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/scalar_type_hints

although my involvement here is very sparse at the moment, please let me
tell you that I a) find it great that you don't give up, are
persistently going for your idea while b) still being objective rather
then emotional. I'm really happy to see such technical, lively
discussion you initiated so far. Thank you :-)

That said ...

- I dislike the RFC since the introduction of the declare() adaption
(effectively 0.2/0.3 now) and did not 100% agree with 0.1

- Since consensus on the strict mode does part the community (or, the
greater community also outside @internals) my impression is that the
current best way to move forward would be

 - get the rfc to only go for weak types for now
 - using the "cast-like syntax": function foo( (int) $bar );

and ultimately keep the strict type out for /now/ and try it at a later
time, the "function foo( int $bar )"-syntax.

I'm actually not really in favor of just weak types, I would consider
myself a "strict type" voter, but through the community communication
here I saw a) the benefits of weak types hinting/casting b) without
getting in the way of a possible future strict type (e.g. with the
"non-cast-like syntax").

thank you,
- Markus